Video shows Australian SAS soldier shooting and killing unarmed man at close range in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Bush Lawyer, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    9,919
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Again, one guy, lets see what the rest of the unit said?
     
  2. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I suppose we could always go back to carpet bombing if this how you are going to treat the people who risk their lives to minimize civilian casualties...
     
    Blaster3 and Red Lily like this.
  3. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    9,919
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You don't say?
     
  4. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2018
    Messages:
    6,008
    Likes Received:
    5,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    defending a terrorist...

    speaks volumes...

    no need to continue with the thread because it will always come back to defending a terrorist...
     
  5. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's interviewed in plain sight, and got the video evidence to back it all up. And still people here play "trust me. That SAS soldier is a liar. I know best. The unarmed brown Muslim with the hands in the air posed a thread and had to be executed".

    I've seen covert racism far more subtle.
     
  6. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That SAS soldier who is interviewed is a soldier.
    And you seem to not care, because you know... doesn't fit your agenda.
     
  7. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Dude, cant you wait for the inquiry to conclude? That's all i am saying.
     
  8. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah. That trial brown muslims got when they got executed unarmed with their hands up?
    You think that SAS soldier ratting out his fellow colleagues thinks it's "funny" to go to the press?
    He doesn't look like a clown to me.
     
    JET3534 likes this.
  9. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The concern is to raise attention BEFORE the inquiry becomes a cover-up. When a government investigates itself the potential for a cover-up is always real.
     
  10. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nothing to do with race until you prove it.

    Also i support temporary racism among troops against the people we are fighting if it helps our troops.deal with what they have to do..

    No, i dont think any of this is funny for anyone.
     
  11. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You demand proof of racism, while you support racism in this case.
    Nice going there, champ. Very amusing.

    Here is your proof. A SAS soldier is in plain sight telling you that unarmed people with their hands up got executed. The only reason why those get executed is because they are brown Muslims. There is nothing else. And here you are supporting racism in these cases. With that you support war crimes.

    And how different is this all from rooting for people to gas Jews? Not "much". Just an other person who has an excuse to support war crimes when totally innocent people get massacred.

    Not hard to connect dots here though.
    Back in my days, racism used to be a little more covert.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
  12. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    You don't listen at all do you?

    I'm sorry if we are at war with Arabs and it makes it easier for them do what they have to do by calling tjem ********s or rags i , if we're in an asisn jungle call them gooks I don't care my main concern is for our troops and the damage we do to them by sending them to war. Anything that makes their job easier i am 100% for. War time is no time for PC nonsence.

    Now, if the inquiry finds him guilty throw the book at him..
     
  13. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The purpose of US troops in Afghanistan as I understand it is to protect that Afghans from the Taliban. Both the Taliban and the Afghans who are not Taliban are the same race. The idea that our soldiers should practice racism against the people we are trying to help seems counterproductive to me. Of course the bottom line is we had no reason to be in Afghanistan after Bin Laden was allowed to escape the country by Bush. And the Australians have no reason to be there.
     
  14. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,942
    Likes Received:
    6,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You train and pay them to, among other things, fight and kill. Then you accuse them when something doesn't appear quite right. It is as if you have glimpsed the kitchen after an exquisite banquet and seen the mess.
     
  15. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are not at war with the Arabs. If your concern is for the troops then support a US withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.
     
  16. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Executing an unarmed man after asking "should I drop this c***" is a war crime.
     
  17. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,942
    Likes Received:
    6,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Was there a handgun, a rifle, a grenade, or a plunger for a remote bomb in the tall grass near him? Why would he query his Commander? Why did his Commander hesitate? What did his Commander say?
     
  18. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Seriously? If there was potential to trigger a bomb there would have been an instant shot with no questions.
    My question for you. Why are we there? We being the US, the Australians, et al.
     
  19. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,365
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Go back? We never were carpet bombing civilians in Afghanistan.
     
  20. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We aren't carpet bombing to reduce civilian casualties. Instead we use surgical strikes with drones or special ops. We have done it in the past and it cost thousands of innocent lives. Mistakes are still made but we are not going to simply roll over and stop going after targets like bomb makers. It's a horrible thing when any innocent people die, but it's not a perfect world and we have taken unprecedented steps to reduce civilian casualties...
     
  21. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I listened to the SAS soldier telling us how it is, with the video footage that proves he is right.
    You are refusing to accept the reality of your fellow white SAS soldier.

    You previously mentioned you support racism... but I mean... this is even more stupid. There is no ethnic war going on. You, just like that soldier executing innocent unarmed people, are making that up. Also... Afghans aren't Arabs. But you know... I guess it doesn't matter to you since they aint white.

    Boy oh boy... one ethnic slur after the other in combination with full support to kill such innocent people. And you do care. You don't like it, that your "heroes" are going to be send to jail for war crimes. This has nothing to do with PC. This is about being on the right side of the Geneva Conventions and international law. You don't get to be a nazi and get away with it, no matter how much their supporters march up and down in the streets.
     
    JET3534 likes this.
  22. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those civilians don't want you there. It's Afghans 1st over there, just like anywhere else. And the Taliban is a domestic movement with roots firmly in the Afghan society fighting against foreigners demanding a cultural and religious revolution. They don't feel like it. Hence it's been 2 decades of fighting a loosing war.

    The losers made a deal to jump ship with the Taliban.
    Time to face the music. Nothing really accomplished.
    Biggest legacy will be massacres and body bags send home.
    Congrats.
     
    JET3534 likes this.
  23. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    8,348
    Likes Received:
    4,155
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Probably. Maybe they knew him already? Maybe he did something that only Taliban would do. You can tell who is who on the battlefield by their demeanor. Kind of weird, and hard to explain, but it's 100% true.

    I saw Taliban shoot at us until they ran out of ammo or we closed in, then they'd throw down their weapons and run.

    Now if you take a 30 second video of us shooting a dude running away, your average civilian would be outraged. Murders! All that jazz...

    When the reality is, we knew who he was. That's why we shot him.

    I dont judge military members shooting unarmed civilians. I understand that there is a difference between war and murder, but I also understand that if you arent there, your opinion is really irrelevant and likely wrong.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
    Red Lily likes this.
  24. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    8,348
    Likes Received:
    4,155
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I served with 3/5 in the area around Sangin in 2010.

    I would say civilians, by and large, do not know what they're talking about and even fewer civilians have ever been put in a situation where they were asked to pull the trigger.

    It isnt like the movies, and you cant begin to understand a situation from a 45 second video.

    Most of the time I just let people say what they want, because no amount of explanation will change their mind.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
  25. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    8,348
    Likes Received:
    4,155
    Trophy Points:
    113
    100% disagree.

    I know because they told me so.
     
    Red Lily and Josh77 like this.

Share This Page