Good News From Italy?

This is like some movie where everybody is very careful but then one person makes a small mistake and the zombies get in the house.

 

The GREED OBSESSION is entirely responsible for extorting money from the parents of sick children.

 

Pretty soon(in about the same month's time as April 20th when we can see if this has worked at all or not), there won't be anything to be greedy over.

 

Weren't you the one who set the target date for 3/20 for US cases to reach 8400?

It is only the 19th and the total US cases are at least 1000 cases higher than that target already. They will be over 10,000 by tomorrow.

And total US deaths just jumped to 155!

The EXPONENTIAL GROWTH is established and now we are seeing the DEATH TOLL climbing because your criminal IMPOTUS failed miserably to do his job!

 

Setting aside blaming Trump(which the doctor who instituted this stupid plan hasn't done.), you are correct we are seeing the Exponential Growth. Now, mathematically what the "flattening the curve" people want to do is see if they can stabilize the flow(that's actually really what it is.) Or as I call it now: It's basically death by a thousand papercuts.

What I call for instead is to enable that Growth, and what typically happens is at the peak of its growth, it then starts to naturally decline.

 

Had the FDA had the ability to "sanction drugs that had not passed an health-acceptability regulatory testing", there would not have been the massive amount of Opioid-related Deaths in the US!

To wit (from here):

Hey, boyz-'n-girlz, when will "enough be enough" for drug-deaths in the US? All such drugs in Europe are deliverable only "by prescription" from a practicing GP and the cost is far, far less since it pricing is specified by the National Healthcare Service!

And yet, I must backtrack on some comments I have made in the past regarding the European availability of Opioids. These stats reported here below are mostly illegal high-usages of the drug. From here:
Excerpt:

*NCHS = National Center for Health Statistics

 

China was ALSO were SARS was first detected/reported.

See here:

They are making a BAD HABIT of creating some very dangerous epidemics. During the period of the SARS-infection, there were 8,098 reported cases in China and 774 deaths.

Twice is two-times too much ... !

 

Let's not go overboard, shall we. Stalin was responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of his own people. (See the Guardian news-report here.)

As regards China, the origin of two murderous epidemics is indeed two too many. In a way, it is trying to make-up for its mistakes.

It has shipped by airplane one-million anti-epidemic masks to France this week ...

PS: If the Chinese government asked a company in China to "shat Green" it will shat-green. You cannot say that of the US. Let's watch-'n-see how well Uncle Sam's country reacts to CV-19, which the PotUS said on Feb. 25 was "not worth worrying about". (And for the Replicants who don't wanna believe that happened, see here.)

 

Some posters might regard this is messing up a thread.......
but what do you personally think of the COVID 19 virus beginning
to inspire many of us to look at economics in a new way that could well lead to
some variation of an unconditional income supplement or even a BMI?

(For the record.... I am thinking about a variation of this that could well be connected with
the Vatican State...... (perhaps artistically in 1939)???)

COVID 19 and introduction of an unconditional income supplement

I wrote the following back in 2010:

http://greendesertstoreducecarbon.blogspot.com

Friday, January 22, 2010
Is Pope Benedict XVI In The Best Position to Effectively Combat Climate Change?[/paste:font]

Homily for January 17, 2010 by Dennis Tate. Assignment #2 for MNST 130 class at St. Francis Xavier University.

 

It seems European political leaders figured that because SARS never made it to Europe, neither would CV-19.

Did they EVER get that wrong. And, they got another simple question faulty as well: If China already had generated a killer-disease like SARS, why did they not react quicker?

Well, they did. What happened was typîcal of Chinese management. Don't forget, they may work in what are called "private industries" - but that nomenclature is fake. No such entity really exists in China because the Head of state has the final say on everything.

From the Guardian, here: How the state runs business in China - excerpt:

It's an interesting read, that article ....

 

Then I would recommend population control.

 

Despite falling numbers of new infections Italy has today announced that social distancing and self-isolation measures due to be relaxed next week are to be extended and may get more severe.

 

For the WHO world map of country infection rates, see here. (The document is a pdf and must be opened. Scroll down for the world-map distribution-of-COVID-19 on the first page.)

Evidently, from that map, and given the amount of red to be seen, don't even THINK of coming to Europe ...

PS: Heaven Above! Even Prince Albert of Monaco has got it!!! Dear me, dear me, dear me - is nothing sacred? (Bad Joke! ;^)

 

Already here but on the right side of the defensive moat known as The English Channel, for all the good it will do me.

 

Opioids are one of our major tools against pain - with pain management being difficult. I'd point out that alcohol and tobacco are addictive, too, and both do serious damage to those who are addicted. And basically, they are entertainment.

I agree we need to so work on this and on drug pricing, but let's be careful with assignig blame.

 

I insist that most people taking opioids in Europe do so as ordered by their doctor.

There are those, however, that are hooked on opioids and obtain them illegally. But these people are hooked and deserve the same outcome as those who take the killer-drugs.

If you want to "work on this" and "drug pricing" in the US, then you need a government National Health Service as overseer. Until then, anybody with a bent for making one helluva-lotta-muney will be a purveyor drugs - hard or soft.

Either that or put up with the death-rates that is caused by the present system of privatized medicine, which most of the developed world has refused since a great long time ...

 

No, they are not "making a habit". They are working hard to NOT make a habit.

How many times is Africa allowed? How many times is the ME allowed?

You're doing no more than reactng to this particular problem as if it is a China problem. But, new diseases are coming from various places.

And, we have NOT learned how to deal with it. In fact, our acts show we're fully ready to ignore it until it kills our economy.

Instead of blaming China, we need to have a serious plan for how to handle new disease from any source.

 

???

You need to make it a little clearer what you suggest America must do.

 

"They are working hard to not make a habit." Trump should've colluded with the Chinese instead, he'd have been immune from criticism. Two major diseases in the last 13 years is not working hard. Destroying labs and evidence isn't working hard.


Remember the lead poisoning incident with children? China repeatedly has standards below that of the FDA. And it's a wakeup call for the whole world. There's no amount of hand wringing that can save China of what's to come from this situation. For those who want to kowtow to the Chinese: Move to China. But for the US, we must wean off and we must do so quickly. By 2025, we should hopefully have our production and needs met here.

 

I don't see anything in this post that we aren't doing.

 

This is unsupportable nonsense.

Remember the lead poisioning event in Flint? Does that make you hate Americans?

And, the idea of killing trade with China as a way of protecting against some new disease can not possibly be supported by science.

Hating China ad the Chinese people is NOT an approach.

And, it has absolutely nothing to do with what the US needs to do to have an adequate emergency pandemic response plan.

 

It's already too late, because I do. We have the FDA. We have controls. What happened in Flint, was an accident. China was manufacturing TOY GOODS. DO you not recognize the difference?

You may not want to hold China to task, that's your prerogative. But I do hold China to task. And it can be supported by science if you see those disgusting argicultural "practices". I don't want anything to deal with Chinese trade ever again.

 

Yes - I do not see a difference. Those in charge decided to provide a product without testing or appropriately responding when they found they were frying the brains of children.

We are't going to change China's markets. And, neither can THEY at this point - though I'm sure they will as their economy grows.

This didn't have to do with trade with China.

Remember that one individual came to Seattle, visited an elderly relative and went back home to NYC - transmitting COVID to a number of other people even though she had no symptoms.

 

Some Americans are buying opioid drugs off-the-street because they avoid going to costly American doctors that charge $200 a visit.

And, they are dying in consistently larger amounts for doing so:


Where do they get these opioid-drugs? Off the street, because they are otherwise too expensive if provided by a doctor. And that is how the poor are killing themselves ...

 

It IS a China problem because China in the past has not addressed it as such. This is the second-time-around in recent years that the source of a deadly epidemic was China!

If other active poisons come from Africa, they are not making it to Europe or the US in any large quantities. CV-19 was different because foreigners that were visiting or living in Wuhan brought the CV-19 to those parts of Europe where the deaths have occurred. Which was more or less the same route that Americans were infected.

I maintain the source of the CV-19 deaths in the US is exactly the same. Wuhan! That other Americans are now infecting Americans in America is the same phenomenon as is happening in Europe ...