Putin Won't have it! WW2 was Wests' fault. Hitler was created and pushed to attack Russia.

Dude... no.
The war started when the Serbs killed the heir to the Austrian-Hungarian throne/empire.

No. The US deliberately signed a neutrality act for the sake to not be part of a war in Europe beforehand.

Which is ridiculous. The US only fought for 1 year. lol
The US didn't capture the capital in Germany. Kudo's go to the USSR.

 

That's what you get when you sign a neutrality act, to deliberately sit at the side line.
Cowards.

 

Half of Europe was under control of the USSR for a while. There aint no heil Putin there, because the USSR collapsed. Your idea that the other half isn't saying heil Putin because of the US is just pure nonsense.

The US hardly lifted a finger. Get real. They made profits with loans when others were fighting for their lives. The US only fought for 1 year in Europe. Just 1 year. It's embarrassing. But that's what you get when you lot made it the law to remain neutral in order to chicken out.

 

Wow....did you fire the weapon?

Ok...Germany went to war, basically starting it, lost....paid the price.

Didn't matter, when US entered it was decisive.
Read much?

What's ridiculous...lol, show me some credible links/ sources where US fought for one year?

Uh yeah, Sovs did enter Berlin, I never said US captured Berlin....but enabled the Russkis to do it.).

 

fake history. The war started when the Serbs killed the heir to the Austrian-Hungarian throne/empire.

What was decisive was that the Russia rolled Germany back all the way in Berlin and took Berlin.
Russia.. that was rolling back Germany, way before Dday ever happened.

Just look up when Dday happened and when the war was over. There is no need for me to look this up for you.

 

D Day was June 6, 1944.

The Germans still held Minsk at that time....the Soviets were just then reclaiming most of the Russian territory previously occupied by the Germans.

On April 20, 1945 the Soviets rolled in Berlin. They came all the way across Europe...liberated those in the concentration camps....and bombed the **** out of Hitler.

In less than a year.

The Soviets had already turned the war when they stopped the Germans at Volgograd (Stalingrad) in February 1943.

 

During my two deployments to Iraq.

 

You don’t seem to know much about WW2.

 

What years?.....were you in the surge? Mosul?

 

I dont see you proving me wrong.

 

What's fake?? That Germany lost WW1 and was made to pay?
So you can't provide any links??....did you read anything I provided you earlier about North Africa, Italy?.....probably not.

Funny not long after DDay....Russkis launched Bagration 6/22/1944.....that timing is rather coincidental.

 

Especially the demands of the French ..Reflected in that treaty

The soviets paid a great price in number of deaths. More than any other nation.

 

Yeah....Germans (Army group center) were at Minsk.....coincidental timing, as vatniks launched Bagration 2 weeks after DDay.....must've been worried that US will reach Berlin or further....(like the Vistula), and Russia might be stuck in Poland somewhere.

All this was possible for the Sovs by massive lend lease and US bombing missions over Germany. I don't recall reading about any Soviet bombing missions over Germany? Do you?

 

Well, if we had declared war first, then these haters' spin would be all about how 'Evul Imperialist N Stuff' we are. They aren't here to argue or debate, they're here to spread nothing but bullshit.

Rubbish. You're just trolling now, and have no idea what you're talking about. National Socialist Letters was published by the Strassers and Goebbels was its major contributor; it was the Party's main organ.

 

Given their poor leadership, political appointees fo the most part, and their5th century barbarian tactics of mobs launching frontal assaults, that's nothing to brag about, much less gives then bragging rights.

 

Nobody takes you seriously, you're a waste of time, that's why.

 

You claimed that Germany started it. That's fake history. So why should they pay for not starting something? They only lost. That's it. The allied made them pay that much that they would be forever in debt. And when they invaded Germany again when they couldn't pay up. Those things set in motion why they voted for Hitler. Hence Putin has a point... The allied started WWII because they way they ended WWI. This is also generally accepted as why WWII happened in the first place.

Funny. They were already rolling back the nazi's way before that. Since you looked up Bagration... means, you know it too.

 

According to Ike's biographers, when they nominated him for Allied Commander in Europe, the committee interviewing him asked him how he would proceed with the war. He left the room for a half hour and came back with his plan, and after examining it he got the Command. The plan he came up with is the one he followed to the end; he stopped the advance along the defensive line he decided from the beginning. It's true Roosevelt and the Americans were lobbying for an American as overall commander, but that was Marshall, and the European command was a toss up between Ike and Lord Alanbrooke. The Brits were satisfied he could handle the job, so he got the nod.

Not much else to it re where we stopped; Berlin just wasn't a strategic military objective by then, it was rubble, nothing there, and by agreements we were going to occupy half of it anyway.

 

I can prove you wrong any day of the week.

you: “The US only fought for 1 year in Europe.”
Last time I checked, Scilly and Italy were apart of Europe. Am I wrong?

You don’t seem to grasp that the allied effort in the Italian Campaign drew almost half a million Germans from the eastern front.

You also seem to forget that America was involved in the North African campaign, and oh yeah fighting in the pacific as well.

You also seem to forget that it took almost two years to build up for the invasion of France.

you also seem to forget that France could’ve marched into Germany in the mid 30’s , and nipped Hitler in the bud as soon as he started violating the terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

yeah, you don’t know much about ww2.

 

The Soviets had to wait for Lend-Lease shipments to arrive in bulk before they could chance breaking out of the Kursk pocket in the summer of '43. They need to U.S. and British armor and ammo and other gear to have any chance of success.

 

So WHO started WWI ????
And what was Germany doing in France and Belgium?

Putin doesn't mention that Russia also started WWII with Stalin in 1939.
He should mention that Lenin dreamt of starting WWII himself, but died
too early, thankfully.

 

It just burns your ass because deep down you know that the Soviets did most of the legwork and bore the most losses.....upwards of 25 million, as compared to a little over 400K U.S. losses. The U.S. didn't do bombing raids to speak of east of Berlin....they didn't have the range even if they wanted to. So no, they didn't provide air support for the Soviets.

The FACT is that WW2 turned at the Battle of Stalingrad.

Without the RUSSIANS, Hitler would have won. And it's not even effin close. So show some damn respect.

You seem to forget they were our allies.

And why should we believe you've been to Russia several times when you claim to hate the place?

 

I don’t disagree with the fact that the Soviets bore the brunt of WWII. The massive loss of life , and the devastation prove that much. I’m not taking anything from the Russian sacrifice, when I say Hitler’s military incompetence played a vital role in his eventual downfall.

 

The Germans didn’t start WW1. That war started in the Balkans, between Serbia and the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Entangling treaties brought Russia, Germany, France, and the U.K. into that war.

 

I doubt they bragged about losing so many people.

They have a history of being invaded which probably makes them paranoid in being surrounded by nation after we assured them nato troops would not move one inch eastward towards Russia. Treated them like we treated the Indians with broken promises .

Russia did not start the war with germany . They were attackef after Hitler broke his promise.

Our problem is we treat russia like she is the communist ussr and have no wish to get along with Russia. Nor do we think they deserve having national interests.

Hell when trump voiced trying to work out a deal with putin as we shatef security interests DC and our national security state went ape ****!

As we were bending over backward for the communist state of china.