No Cops To Save You, But Too Bad You Couldn't Get A Gun To Protect Yourself

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  1. ECA

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    Was that supposed to be an example of costs preventing someone from owning a gun?
     
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    Problem solved.
     
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    Maybe. But, to buy ammo in CA now requires either a Real ID, or a US issued passport, and (I think) a $15.00 background check. And, there's something about having bought a firearm recently so that your name is on a confirmed roster.

    Regardless of your political views, it's clear that CA is doing all it can to prevent its residents from arming themselves.
     
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    I know 4 people who have experienced violent home invasions. If you think it can't happen to you you are in denial.
     
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    How is needing a license preventing someone from owning a gun? If one can’t afford to have a license I’m quite confident they can’t afford a gun. Just sayin
     
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    Men, specifically Black men, then Hispanic men, then White men.
     
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    Sure you can. I've done it multiple times. Talk to the guy who selling it and say here's the money for the gun and they hand you the gun and it's yours now.
     
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    like I said, not sure where you live, no one I have known has ever experienced such - for me, I weigh the risks, a gun would pose more of a risk for my household

    that doesn't mean I am choosing for you, or anyone else, I support everyone (even ex-felons) right to own a gun to protect their homes and families

    why? cause it makes me safer if a criminal doesn't know if I have a gun or not

    remember the lady getting a gun because she heard something in the backyard, she woudl still be alive today if she had no gun, cops see people with guns as a threat, even good women with a gun

    children with toy guns been shot by cops....

    cops warned people not to use cell phone cases in the shape of a gun because cops might mistake it for a real gun...

    all I am saying is there are risks to owning a gun and risks to not owning one, we each have to weigh that risk for ourselves and our families
     
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    I'm not sure you are understanding how this whole thing works.

    Without a valid Real ID, or a valid ID + a US passport, you aren't buying anything. A Real ID costs money. A US passport costs money. Either is required now to buy one .22LR bullet that costs .15 cents.

    If one cannot afford a Real ID or US Passport, they have then been priced out of the market as far as a firearm purchase is concerned.
     
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    That totally depends on one's income level.
     
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    Why would you ever need a gun living in a state with all like minded individuals?
     
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    You've been misinformed.

    Fox News viewer, by chance?

    Or is it Breitbart or Maxnews?
     
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    4 illegals tried to do a home invasion on me.

    I wasn't supposed to be home but was that day.

    A Makarov in the lead guys face changed their minds real quick-they were falling down the stairwell backwards.
     
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    I will take your word for it that they were illegals and you asked for their ID...and it said illegal on it...

    but like I said, it's your choice - there are risks both ways
     
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    He's BSing you. How tf does he claim to know that the were illegal?
     
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    Huh? The Real ID in my state cost the same as a regular license, which is $50. If a person can’t afford a drivers license then they certainly can’t afford a gun.
     
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    They were all about 4 feet tall (im 6'2), and had keys for my apartment.

    I called the front office and asked if they had sent maintenance to my place and they had not.

    Cops were not surprised in the least.
     
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    Why should an ID for an American citizen or Resident Alien cost $50.00?

    Do you really think it costs that much to manufacture a picture ID?
     
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    How do you know they were illegals?
     
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    Nice deflection from the topic we were discussing. So you agree if one can’t afford a drivers license then they can’t afford a gun, right?
    As for you question, you’d have to ask your representatives why it cost $50. Good luck
     
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    A democrat?
     
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    If you bought a long gun since (I believe) 2004 or a hand gun as far back as somewhere in the 80's or early 90's (I can't remember the exact year), you're already in the system. One box of .22's or a full pallet of .556's will cost you a buck for an "instant" background check. The vendor or FFL "transferor" logs what you purchase. What kind and how many. And reports that to the state. You can then walk out with what you buy.
    If you haven't bought a firearm within the described time frame, you have to go through a full background check just like you would if you are buying a firearm in California. There is no "waiting period" but the check duration is however long it takes for the state to complete your full background check. That could take a couple of days or twenty. And it costs $19 (to the state) and whatever else the vender/FFL charges for them doing the process. There is no "instant" background check in that first-time buyer situation. After having done that, now you are in the system and future ammunition checks will cost you a buck for the "instant' background check. Future firearm (all kinds) purchases will still require a full background check and a ten day wait. Each and every time you buy one.

    Pretty soon the state will require that you prove that you have a firearm in the caliber the same as the ammunition you purchase. That's just a back-handed way for the state knowing what kind of firearm(s) you have. That will be their next "common sense" firearm law.
    One can easily imagine a scenario now where a few friends are planning on going out shooting. One dude wants his buddy to try out his firearms but wants the guy to provide his own ammunition. If the buddy isn't in the system, s/he can't make a run to Big5 and get his share of ammo and walk out with it while on the way to the mountains/desert for the outing/trip.
    And, if you want to get technical, if the two buddies walk into Big5 on the way for their outing, and the buddy who is in the system says to his buddy who is not in the system, "So, how much ammo. do you want me to get for you for the trip", that would actually be a crime. That is now a "straw-buyer purchase" and would be a firearms violation. And ANY firearm in the state of California is a enormous potential for one to lose their right to own/posses/use a firearm in the state.

    That's how ****ed-up the firearm laws are in the once great state of California. Liberals and ONLY liberals are to blame for that.
     
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    that is one thing I dislike about apartments, they have the keys to your front door and you can't secure them and obviously neither can your landlord
     
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    The front office couldn't care less.

    Im in full Adrenalin mode and they didn't even ask about 4 men with keys breaking into apartments.
     
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    I think the renter should be able to change the locks, if the landlord wants in, they can knock or call and make an appointment

    I had a bad experience once too with an exterminator coming in and spraying without notice right after my first child was born and the door was locked, that was a shock
     
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