No Cops To Save You, But Too Bad You Couldn't Get A Gun To Protect Yourself

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  1. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    ... or kill them, depending.
     
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    CCI used to make .22 long-rifle ammunition in a variety called Stinger "Pentapoint". If a couple of those didn't actually kill you, they'd very likely ruin your whole damned day.... But, for everyday protection, I'll stick by the .380 ACP . Very small, very lightweight, and close to a 9mm in "effectiveness"....
     
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    A very fine pistol that is roughly equivalent to the .380 ACP is the 9X18 Makarov. I was lucky enough to find an East German made Makarov that is small, well made and quite accurate for its size however, when I'm carrying, I rarely carry anything but a .45 ACP.

    Since I live in a rural area, I worry more about hitting a deer at night with my car & prefer a pistol that is powerful enough to put a wounded deer out of its misery.
     
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    Big fan of the LCP II (enough so that I have more than one - configured differently)! Much better than the LCP predecessor, fyi for prospective buyers. Though I have much more expensive & 'refined' CCW's, this is the one that gets carried most every day - full of dust & sweat, no problem, It works & has a mighty nice trigger to boot... :)

    My latest, set up w/ a retention clip (obviously only good in certain CC circumstances)
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    My personal favorite for CC is a Colt Mustang Pocketlite in .380, it's light, being a single stack is narrow making it very easy to conceal, it's a simple design, very reliable and with 6+1 carry's a decent amount of firepower, none the less I still carry 2 more mags on my weak side, which brings me up to 19 rounds.

    I pray each day I never have to pull it, but should that horror be forced upon me, 19 should be enough, or so I hope to get me through what ever I am presented with.

    Since the mid 80's I used to carry a Colt Officers ACP in .45, but with age and a gaining of some weight I found the .380 to by much easier to carry because I don't need to cinch the belt up so much, the weight of the .45 and a couple of extra mags had a tendency pull my pants down if I didn't pull the belt up tight to a level that was on the edge of being annoying to my hips.

    Getting older is fun, but it comes with some drawbacks, such as what's over my hips is slightly wider than my hips, so it's like putting a belt on a funnel, and I refuse to go farm boy and begin wearing suspenders. ;-)
     
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    Hitting a deer is no fun, but hitting one at a high speed can be real bad, this one didn't have to be put out of it's misery.

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    The Deputy was real lucky he didn't get hit with ground up deer meat.

    Hitting a Vulture isn't any fun either, I was heading down US 27 at about 75 MPH and up ahead was a flock of them in the middle of the road, I tapped the electronic air-horn a couple of times and off they went, most of them to the West, one went East, it suddenly decided to change course and head West with his buddies, he lost altitude and bang, good bye windshield.

    The left side interior of my Crown Vic was covered in glass shards, as was my passenger, luckily she had sun glass's on or it could have been much worse.


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    Your Colt is an ounce heavier than my Ruger LCP II (unloaded), but I love your stainless steel frame! It does add to the cost, but stainless is in a class by itself.

    Yeah, being lightweight is important in a concealed-carry situation. I found that even something like a S&W 38-Special 5-shot revolver with a one inch barrel was too darned heavy, really. And something like a Colt Combat Commander .45 would just be too heavy to try to 'conceal' at all, I think.
     
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    I agree completely! You can also find a number of really good ankle holsters for it, too. This one fits flat, tight, and snug, and it can also pack an extra magazine: https://www.amazon.com/TacX-Pro-Gea...olster+for+ruger+lcp+2&qid=1585422154&sr=8-19

    Plus, I like that it has a substantial snap button. I like velcro for some things, but I want to be able to snap and unsnap the weapon in place securely.
     
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    You're not answer the question. Why is the cousin being penalized for a criminal act that they had nothing to with
     
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    Being stainless provides a great advantage when carrying in a tropical area such as here.

    On the left is my Officers ACP and on the right is my Mustang, note the 3 decades of rusting caused by sweat on the ACP, even though the handgun was maintained on a regular basis, while it's cosmetic and doesn't effect it's operation, such rusting has destroyed it's resale value.

    It's also apparent by the carbon marks on the barrel we have spent many hours on the range perfecting a draw, aiming, re-holstering and learning a shoot or don't shoot attitude.

    Sadly most anti-gunners have no idea of what law abiding gun owners put themselves through, at their own expense the training needed to properly carry for self defense and by projection of what they would do demonstrate why many of them should never be allowed to touch a gun nor less carry one for self defense.

    When I see silly terms proffered by the anti's like "I have my license so you should have one too" or "I registered my guns, so you should you do the same" it becomes quite clear, they do not understand that licensing, nor registration prepares a person to be able to safely carry for self defense.

    It takes a lot of attitude adjustment, just because one is carrying, it doesn't provide them with power, it actually is restricting and requires one to learn how to defuse a situation versus getting into a fight, one learns to send their ego to the back of the bus and walk away if possible.

    In other words, do everything within ones power to not draw a gun or even let anyone know you have one.

    It's much better to walk away from a conflict with ones tail between their legs, then to go through the life wrecking tide that will result once the trigger is pulled.


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    The Officers ACP is not light, but when I first began carrying full time, it's weight was never a problem, carried it in a custom made Del Fatti IWB holster which is so nice the price of it was well worth the money I paid for it.

    Del Fatti builds holsters on a one up basis and they are designed to match the buyers body like it was part of it, carry method left or right and rake, the leather is hydraulically molded around a blank of the gun it was designed for providing good retention and a silk smooth draw and re-holstering.

    Sadly I think he has retired and is no longer making holsters.
     
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    Retention is an open carry issue and while I support anyone who wants to carry open, I believe on the street it's not a smart thing to do unless the person has a ton of training on weapon retention.
     
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    He wouldn’t as long as a patten of abuse was not there.
     
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    Only psychopathic liberals think they can set the rules that other people should live by. It is a mental disease.
     
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    Actually I just about exclusively use the retention clip 'rig' when wearing western boots. I use a slim profile pocket holster (the one that comes w/ the LCP II is hard to beat) & clip it to the top inside of my right inner boot - backwards. Necessarily I'm a boot cut jeans gal...

    On rare occasion I will clip it to the inside waistband (tramp stamp region) but us womenfolk, myself at least, don't usually wear the loose enough clothing to allow this... I have never open carried an LCP II with a retention clip, that would just be silly, not to mention counterproductive... :)
     
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    So asking gunners to try to at least to try to minimize to reduce the collateral deaths for killing expectant mothers is "psychopathic" because gunbers have the right to kill anyone whey want?

    Well, yes, sometimes it seems to be the case from you guys, but I was trying to be polite since this is Political Forum!
     
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    Gun owners don't think that way, they are some of the most law abiding people in the U.S., sadly I cannot say the same for the anti-gunners who dream that sort of pap up.

    You have no idea of what you are talking about.
     
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    First off, gun owners know that they don't have a "right" to go out and kill anyone that they want. That's just ignant.

    Secondly, you never answered the question you were asked as to why would someone who ALREADY owns a firearm have to have any sort of waiting period to purchase another one?

    [/QUOTE]Well, yes, sometimes it seems to be the case from you guys, but I was trying to be polite since this is Political Forum![/QUOTE]
    NO ONE said or even inferred that in any way.
     
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    Happiness is a warm gun!



    And sometimes, in some situations, it may just be the only thing that saves you from complete catastrophe.... :machinegun:
     

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