Trump has never been worse — but his approval is surging, why?

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  1. Rugglestx

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    What are you babbling about? Where did I mention a travel ban? China?
    nowhere....

    Now let me break it down for you a bit more..

    Bad stuff happens. People die, a lot of people each day. Over 7000 a day in the US. 365 days a year, year after year.

    Sometimes really bad stuff happens, like earthquakes, hurricanes and viruses. They are not anyone fault. Mother Nature answers to no one. She does as she will, When really bad stuff happens more people die than normal.

    If you want to blame someone for the really bad stuff and their name in not Mother Nature then you are a fool. If you want to name those things after a person to attach blame to them then you are a damn fool.

    Earthquake Clinton
    Hurricane Bush
    Trump Virus

    Stupid. Silly. Immature. How else could one describe terms like those?

    Perhaps your should take a breath, put down the Trump Rage and try and be a rational adult about things.
     
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    This is just a normal rally around the commander in times of crisis reaction. The full weight and breadth of the damage done by trump will only become clear after things settle down and the bodies are counted. But when people start dying by the thousands, and then the tens of thousands, he will drop in popularity like a rock.

    Just wait until they start hammering the airwaves with his claim of a Democrat hoax; its like the flu or a cold.

    We have passed 2000 deaths in the US and the number is doubling about every 2.5 days.
     
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    You were trying and failing to rebut my answer to the poster who DID bring up Tramp's travel ban as having controlled the spread of the Trump-45 Virus, as if you didn't know what you were replying to!
     
  4. Rugglestx

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    Oh look a death cheerleader from the left, how shocking....

    Your a sick excuse for a human being.
     
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    What are you on about? I replied to your stupid little post directly, did not refer to anybody else's. My post referred to nothing other than yours, in anyway.
     
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    By not taking into consideration the post I was replying to, as you now admit, you were taking my post deliberately out of context, which is quite dishonest!
     
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    You say Trump hasn't done anything? What exactly do you think he should be doing that he is not doing?
     
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    Stand on his head and burp ventilators.
    /s
     
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    Other polls seem to disagree.
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/fox-n...rushing-trump-by-25-points-in-swing-counties/
     
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    No other leader in the world, except for bolsonaro, has spent a second during the crisis berating their fellow public servants or picking fights or dismissing the severity of the pandemic.
    They have all adopted an attitude of- we are in this together.
    Unlike trump, who has refused to accept any responsibility for the situation, has repeatedly attacked other officials for not showing him enough appreciation and has tried to use the pandemic to further divide the world and the country.
    Defending the actions or motives of this shithole of a human being is now both irrational and dangerous.
     
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    Yes, he has attacked people. He normally does when they do stupid crap or attack him first. Anyone should. "we are in this together" isn't going to mean crap unless everyone is on the same page. Meaning that no one is doing stupid crap. And I have yet to see him attack anyone for not showing him "enough appreciation". You're going to have to source that. Just the other day he praised one of Rachael Maddow's show segments. And she makes up outright lies against him all the time. So pretty sure that claim of yours is just a POV opinion and not based on reality.

    PS: Your post was all about him doing something. The question was "what has he NOT done that you think he should be doing".
     
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    Americans have a perverse streak. They sometimes fall for some curious characters. Just look at how many people still like Reagan!
     
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    Trump's fault how?
     
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    You're angry we get it but is your anger justified? And does Trump deserve all the baseless accusations?

    If you have something real by all means share it and we can discuss it rationally but if all you have is venom towards the president because you don't like him then this conversation is over.
     
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    He is realistic about the number of deaths, and the rate of increase of deaths! Has nothing to do with cheerleading.
     
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    That dude is how the system in this country was set up before Trump ever took office.
     
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    Ultimately because no other leader in the world has been subjected to the same degree of vitriol as Donald Trump before even taking office.
     
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    If you're a Democrat or an anti-Trumper you probably do think the populace is stupid. Even so, the majority of Americans, a slight majority think Trump is doing a good job of handling Corona Virus.

    Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus: Approve 50.6% Disapprove 44.9%

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._trumps_handling_of_the_coronavirus-7088.html

    This is why you seen Trump overall approval numbers rise. Which has lead for the first time since 14 Mar 2017, over three years ago those who disapprove of Trump Job Performance has dropped below 50%. Currently nationwide, Trump job approval is at 47.3%, Disapprove 49.3%. The 47.3% is the highest overall approval percentage ever or since he took office.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    The reason why, Independents. Republicans and Democrats haven't changed their views on Trump. They remain the same or within a point as to where they were back on 1 Mar. But independents, the less to non-partisan, the non-affiliated and quite a lot of them not in either the pro nor the anti Trump camps. They're approval of Trump has risen from 42% up to 47% and seems to be climbing. This is probably due to seeing Trump on the news with his corona virus pressers and appearing to act presidential.

    One has to remember independents were fairly split evenly on Trump's policies. It was his obnoxious, uncouth persona along with his very unpresidential behavior that they disliked. Now are they stupid? That depends on one's politics and one's personal feelings toward Trump.
     
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    Because only partisan Democrats absolutely hate him to the point of never giving him one iota of credit for the things he has done well. No one is 100% evil the way that Democrats and most of the liberal try to portray him.

    Independents are more open minded and can see both the very good and the very bad (and the "meh" neutral) things that Trump has done over the last three and a half years, and give him due credit and/or blame for his actions on various policy decisions.

    It's also possible that Independents are looking at Joe Biden and thinking that he has his own crippling flaws as well as some benefits.
     
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    Trump remains Trump whether or not there is a national or world emergency; and that irritates the hell out of the political Left which has become conditioned by their leadership and MSM to BELIEVE that image alone is exactly the same as both substance and competence. Trump is a scruffy looking and aging man who recognizes real problems, assigns experts to investigate and then advise him, and then he makes the necessary decision and then goes on to tackle the next problem and the next and the next. He doesn't look or act the part of a leftist's perception of what a president should look or act like. Too . . . damn . . . bad.

    The end result? He gets things done, and things generally get better due to his handling of those problems. The Left's problem? He is Trump. Fortunately the rest of the nation simply want results . . . and Trump delivers on results. Not the unrealistic pie-in-the-sky results hysterically demanded by the political Left, mind you; but practical results to meaningful problems. Thus his popularity keeps rising.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    Bull crap on both counts.

    450,000 Americans are not going to die of this. That is his latest prediction, although I would imagine he has higher one somewhere.

    He is clearly using falsely inflated numbers of projected dead by deliberately misusing the mathematical formula of how a death rate is determined to bash Trump. Then he rambles on saying Trump has "done nothing", which if you have been alive for the last two weeks you know is incorrect. He clearly is looking to inflate numbers, scare people and try to implicate Trump being at fault. Political hack job 101. He is without a doubt cheering on more distress so he can use it as a weapon in his weird obsession with Trump.

    He is a sick person and I'm done interacting with him.
     
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    I didn't see the poster you accuse of being a "sick excuse for a human being" stating there will be 450,000 dead?

    But, even so, how do you know there will not be 450,000 dead? Based on the math of exponential growth, it would only take 4-5 weeks to get to that number, if current growth continues at the same rate.

    Now, I concede that the growth rate will probably slow before that happens. Why? Because if we get even close to 100,000 deaths, there will be pure terror on the streets and people basically will stop leaving their homes.

    As to the point the poster you accused as a "sick excuse for a human being" was making: It doesn't matter whether the virus was not Trump's fault, the people will still blame him for the outcome, just like they did with Obama and the great recession, even though he inherited it.
     
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    He said more Americans would die of C19 than did in WWII. Insane comment.

    I know we are not going to hit 450,000 dead from simple common sense and observing what has occured so far with this virus.

    He is clearly wanting to inflate numbers using bogus math to scare people so he can then in turn blame Trump. It is political, it is sick and it is inexcusable.

    Peopl can make what they want of his post, as I said I am done with his foolish BS.
     

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