Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    “Accountability”....that’s not in the conservative dictionary. We’re headed for the 10th in the last 11 recessions under republican budgets and administrations, and you want say I have no accountability.
     
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    There were two major eruptions in 2018 around summer solstice. Guatamala and Hawaii. Yellowstone developed fissues with steam coming from them. Both poles are melting from the bottom.

    All or nothing thinking has you implying its all from humanities carbon impacts.

    Yes, we have our impacts, but the movement of tectonic plates, then magma, is strictly beyond us.

    Major acidification and upsetting the atmospheric gas balance do relate to our carbon print.
     
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    No, it’s the gop that is responsible for nearly every economic volcano. Just a guess based upon a .900 batting average.
     
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    Okay, and you've got an excuse too. Typical BS.
     
  5. dagosa

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    Ok, you can look up stuff.
     
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    9-10 is history.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you have left is denying the actual data and substituting your own fictional reality in its place.

    Flat-earthers do that too. All conspiracy cultists do it. It's why nobody talks to them. Have fun in your bubble.
     
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    So by "major", you apparently mean "minor".

    Which is a regular thing in Yellowstone.

    In some spots, due to rising ocean temperatures, which is due to increasing greenhouse gases.

    The ice melt isn't due to volcanoes. That amount of heat would require 10,000 undersea volcanoes suddenly leaping to life while remaining completely undetected, which is an absurd theory.
     
  9. ChristopherABrown

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    No major, not cataclysmic.


    The 2018 event was a much larger event than usual.

    Antarctica has a subsea mountain that heated from magma flow enough for the ice around it to start moving some.

    Eruptions are not needed. Underwater fissures occur from the tectonic plates moving with the stress of axis tilt.

    So your theory is that greenhouse gasses caused enough heating of the mantle under arctic lakes and tundra to cause ancient silt to release massive methane?

    Hmmm, that is absurd whereas axis tilt is recognized and the Inuit notified NASA in 2014 the sun was no longer following its historical path in the sky.
     
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    so you didn't read it. we knew that already.
     
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    Unfortunately for your argument, it would take 10,000 such events to explain the ice melt.

    And there's also the little problem about how the water around that volcano isn't any warmer than the surrounding ocean water, which totally destroys your theory.

    Plus, you'd have to show the event just started recently, even though the evidence shows the vulcanism is quite old.

    So, your theory requires 10,000 new volcanic events suddenly starting up in the last few decades, while somehow magically passing heat to the ice without warming the surrounding water, and leaving no other trace of their presence. Since that theory is absurd, nobody pays any attention to it.

    No. As that seems to be a theory unique to you, you'll have to explain why you think that's so.

    So the Earth's axis has shifted, and nobody has noticed, except an Inuit guy somewhere. Yeah, you go with that.
     
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    Hmm attitude about Indigenous wisdom of things as rudimentary as solar paths through the seasons is not a good position. Do you even know how to map the solstice with a sun pole? I do. It is three weeks early.

    Perhaps to establish our appreciation of knowledge in this area you could summarize the process.

    Can't see how 1,000 events are needed. 10,000 rifts leaking magma are enough. What is under antartica is not currently a volcano. It is old, heating and cooling regularly. A massive piece of ice is moving because it melted where it was once resting on the mountain.

    There are many videos of methane blasts in siberia. No lake involved there. Just heated gasses. Many videos of lakes bubbling methane. I guess you have no explanation. Mine works.
     
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    You mean it’s NOT the cows fault anymore?
     
  14. bringiton

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    I definitely read it, as you know. It did not say what you claimed it said. That is why I asked you for a direct, verbatim, in-context quote to support your claim, and why you cannot provide such a quote.
     
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    Thanks for admitting that all your "math" nonsense was nothing but a diversion to conceal your lack of credible evidence.
     
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    No, it's just smoothed.
    Where do you think the data came from?
    Please present your evidence that every university in the world says late 20th C warming was more rapid than any previous warming.

    Thought not.
     
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    And...?
    I've had both, thanks (though the math was more than 40 years ago). You might want to try broadening your perspective.
     
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    So you didn’t read it. We already knew that.
     
  19. dagosa

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    Whatever that means....”broadening your perspective” doesn’t sound like any terminology.
     
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    Thank you for agreeing that you know I read it.
     
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    First, global warming is a hoax, perpetrated by globalist corporations. Do not call it climate change, because you have already committed to the idiotic idea that the earth is warming.
    Second, no one is going to give a tinkers damn about your hoax in a year when they do not have a job and their refrigerator is empty. Stupid ass liberal causes are now going to die off as people focus on real survival issues. In the real world, survival is a matter of keeping a roof over your head and food in your belly, and many people are going to struggle to do that going forward, so global warming hoaxes are going to be taken about as seriously as the guy on the corner with a sign claiming god is coming to end the world....
     
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  22. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    A self confessed denier of education, hard work and dedication to science and the use of facts to understand the world around us. Just one question. Are you standing in line to get your science based anti canronavirus shot ?
     
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    More woo woo.
     
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    uh, you seem confused. I pointed out that you clearly did not read it.
     
  25. bringiton

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    As you know, I did read it.
     

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