Malaria drugs touted by Trump can work against coronavirus, top doc tells Laura Ingraham

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    Last news from France : no news about discovery study it is normal. But why they dont test the protocol from Marseille ? that’s the raison a lot of french physicians are not satisfied about it...
    I am not a physician but a lot of french doctor ask the same question.
    Miracle or nothing ? if the european medical autorities don’t test his protocol just the chloroquine we never know the truth. why they do that ? the chinese had already do that...
    And to talk about that is not a physician exclusivity. It is our life and all physician can chose a treatment for us. they are not stupid with Ten years at scool. why don’t trust in them ? Chloroquine must be deliver with medical control and all physician can do that. (ecg etc...)
    It is very surprising that the right is open to the novelty or new possibilities of a very well-known treatment, and the left is worried about possible side effects.
    Would medicine be political?
    It’s strange to see that or we have different brains lol.
     
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    Big Pharma is against it because it's an old drug, no longer under patent, and available for $5.30 a dose, or even in generic form.
     
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    Here the problem is people having a jerk reaction to an untested drug. We all want to know if it works. The danger lies in ignoring the proper channels for testing. You could end up killing more people than you help. If someone is barely hanging on, you don't want to take the only chance they have left by using them as lab rats. And you don't want manufacturers retooling to produce a drug before we know if it is the best option. That could impede the ability to produce better options.

    Here, someone on Fox hears about potentially positive test results from France. They tell trump and he announces a cure before anyone really knows. Meanwhile our experts were already looking at it and working as fast as they can. The next think you know. fanatic on the internet are creating another conspiracy theory, which then undermines people's confidence and serves to create more panic. It also distracts people from what is really important. But what did we see yesterday? Churches full of trumpers. :rolleyes: I'm guess they all decided to sacrifice their lives for trump?
     
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    Mark my words. In a few weeks or months, there will be people who were critical of this treatment protocol bashing Trump for not giving it to more people sooner. They will call him a murderer for denying life saving drugs to the masses.
     
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    The FDA just secured 33 million tablets of the drug for immediate use so I think I'll trust them for now over you. If you get it you can refuse it, they'll be plenty to take there place and the SCIENCE is saying it's working and working well.
     
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    The Governor of VA issues a stay at home order through June 10th.
     
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    You can just about name them on this board, we know the game. The FDA just announced they secured 33 million tablets so it's pretty obvious the tests are going well.
     
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    Yes, and that is unavoidable. You can't just start using critical patients as lab rats. The drug needs to be checked for efficacy and side effects under controlled conditions. "Trump said" isn't good enough no matter how much people think he is the second coming of Christ.

    He can't get the most basic facts straight. He is in no position to be guessing about medical treatments.

    Or have the number of infections dropped to zero, like he said a month ago?
     
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    Yes it is a personal choice.
     
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    This ladies and gentleman is someone convincing themselves of something. It is better to not saying anything. But- He- It-They-Doh.
     
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    Yes but the medical authorities refuse to test exactly a protocol of a great specialist of virus what can we think about that ?
    That’s the beginning of completist idea.
     
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    Hardly untested, it's been around since the '50s, so no reason for jerk opposition to it.
     
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    oups ! in france, in your country the medical establishment look like less psycho rigid, you can test Raoult protocol in your hospitals. It’s forbidden in mine.
     
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    I'm glad the FDA is moving forward with this quickly.
     
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    Maybe you should email the FDA, I'm sure they hadn't thought of any of these things for a drug that's been in use for 70 years.
     
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    As someone who deals with infectious disease daily I’m not really interested in what Trump says. I’ve made a few posts here on PF on this treatment from the scientific side of the equation. My confidence in the treatment stems from going over years of research on RNA viruses and metal ionophores, specifically chloroquine and zinc. It has nothing to do with Trump.

    It’s fascinating to watch leftist actively deny science on this issue. Especially ones who preach against science denial when the subject is AGW. I urge you to take a less partisan approach on this issue. As far as the lab rat concern that has all been worked out already. It’s irrelevant at this point.
     
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    Yes it is science no politics. But how do you believe people who lie or don’t answer scientists' specific questions ?
    In french TV in France we see specialists refusing to answer specific questions about studies.
    Some are not even doctors and feel allowed to challenge the real scientists in their absence.
    For me I trust in Raoult protocol and prouve me his is wrong ! During this time a lot of people die.
    I understand that he don’t want to use a placebo group because it’s a well known molecule.
    But you can say what you want the resistance is autist ! why ?
    Why the left say no and why the right say yes ?
     
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    Many good questions. Good questions with no simple answers.
     
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    NEW YORK PHYSICIAN Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak.

    Trump's Right Again!
     
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    Another unanswered question is that our NHS has a list of patients normally treated with chloroquine for several long-term pathologies.
    Are they not affected by Covid 19? Why no public and statistical study?
    And why our authorities insist on treating terminal patients with chloroquine then this treatment can only be effective at the beginning...
     
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    Oh wow! We are saved! This Dr has miraculously results!

    Even MORE importantly, is our Trump's right hand man, Rudy, interviewed this preeminent to verify the results!

    Oh, Lordy Above, we is Saved by the Wisdom of Trump!

    Of course, those evildoers, those Democrat demons spawn from Hell, try to besmirch our great President!

    Don't listen to him! Even when these prices shoot into the sky, what is your life worth? Be sure to get these life-saving drugs from places you know and trust, like Dr. Oz, Rudy J Apothecary, Fox News own Hannity all can get us properly hooked up!

    So hurry! What could a better a reference than Donald Trump, Rudy, Hanmity and Dr. Oz!

    But watch out! This quote from today, March 30, tells how evil the forces of Democrats work to sow death!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelenko-669-coronavirus-patients/
     
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    The drug will kill you


    It’s toxic
     
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    The hydoxychloroquine was opted more than a month ago. It's the anti-Malaria drug. It's know it helps against SARS. And Covid19 looks like Sars. There is nothing new about this "development".

    And about this doctor:
    He posted this on facebook. It got tweeted by Giuliani.
    There is nothing scientific about this.
    There is zero evidence for anything of this he claims.
    Says enough.

    About what? That this is just a flu, while were using forklift trucks to pile up the corpses in 18 wheelers? No, he aint right. Your random flu doesn't cause that. Sorry. Donald is totally wrong and spread fake news.
     
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