Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Germans have been kicking ass from the start on this virus, and if anything we'll have to honor the Germans once this is over. I give credit to Chancellor Merkel for the united response by the Germans to the threat and the German People have taken it seriously as well.

It's the bounceback that she needed after being poorly perceived for the EU issue of 2017-2018.

 

Lets be honest, we have not clue one about infection rates because the vast majority are not being tested even with mild or moderate symptoms that are actually reported, let alone asymptomatic cases. Its very hard to get a clinician to order a test unless you meet an increasingly strigent standard that is not driven by experts at the CDC trying to get a hold on the parameters and scope of this pandemic, but by medical need in the field. Those are entirely different goals. we are all guessing, including the greatest minds in epidemiology until we get more tests and more results to increase sample size in the broad population by a hell of lot.

We have a lot of people sniffling, coughing and tossing down throat lozenges and aspirin, using Readers Digest, to decide if they have a bad cold, a 'flu' or this novel virus. Frankly, its as good a way to go, as they have!

 

So, China never shared information with anyone about Patient Zero, so we have no idea really how far mutations have gone.

Also, I haven't heard that this virus affects the heart and liver before, in addition to the lungs.

There are a lot of interesting points in that video. It was worth a watch. Thanks!

 

Agreed that the situation isn't ideal, I was just going off the numbers we presently have. But the German experiment, if extrapolated to similar situations might give us a clue so I applaud them. It's also the complicated nature of the virus that's making it this way. If it started out for example with pneumonia, that would actually be a tell tale sign(and would have avoided the whole "It's a flu" thing that yes, tripped up everyone not just the US President.)

Unfortunately, it starts out with the flu like symptoms first before becoming very nasty.

 

Germany has a gigantic advantage.
Last year there was a discussion about rural hospitals, which were nearly empty and very expensive to keep open. Now that overcapacity is the live saver. In my home state Hessen, quiet a few hospitals have not received any C19 patience and their C19 intensive care units are empty.
That overcapacity is now becoming the live safer for Italians, French and Spanish. The German Luftwaffe has install in several of its M400 quarantine station with the necessary equipment for C19 patience and is transporting serious cases from Italy, France ( Elsas Lotringen ) and now Spain to Germany.
It is not just the Federal Government of Merkel which reacted right, it was a unified effort by all State governments.
First it looked like a major brawl between Sates and the Fed would brake loose, but the cool heads and pragmatics won over and everybody started to pull in one direction.
One other thing helped, a very well oiled government apparatus, very often cumbersome, but extremely effective.

 

It's really encouraging that everyone in the world is working on it.

That video AmericanNationalist posted mentioned that we never got a vaccine for SARS-Covid-I after throwing money at the scientists and the that 1st SARS ancestor went away. The scientific community lost interest with no vaccine. I would love it if this one just "went away" too....but we need to learn our lesson and develop a vaccine anyway, especially if the money's already been spent. Doesn't look like this one wants to just go away though.

North Rhine-Westphalia - Isn't that where Stat is living?

 

What you really need is random sample studies of the broad population that are NOT dependent on symptoms, or reports to compare infection rates and learn if they they are going up or down. That is a long way away

 

Yeah, sciences/hospitals should not be the consequence for certain other funding projects. What the Coronavirus has done, is that both parties will have to give up their pet projects, as we must now spend on our necessities and vital functions of the State, not on non necessities.

 

Probably some advantage to there being a form of Germanic civilization going back to the Roman era hundreds of years B.C. versus us in the Wild West melting pot over here in a country barely over 240 years old. Nothing wrong with the wisdom of age and several repetitions of trials and errors...and successes. We're still babies.

 

Toronto Canada banned all public events today all the way through June 30th.

 

June 30th? Wow.

Unfortunately, I think they are ahead of the curve.

 

No vaccine if no customers to buy it. I don’t think it was the scientific community that lost interest, it was the drug companies.
The drug companies need to be “ encouraged “ to continue to investigate these viri. And not just in Korea.

 

Texas Governor's Update Briefing:

Almost 50,000 tested.

Fewer than 10% are testing positive.

Of the positive tests, 11% are needing hospitalization. We still have over 97% of the hospital beds reserved for Covid available.

New executive order: Issues order enhancement/extension that Texans are now restricted to essential services and activities protocols based on federal Homeland Security's definitions of "essential activities/services". Texans are expected to limit all non-essential activities, and follow all the federal Coronavirus Task Force recommendations. Domestic travel is still allowed as long as it limits personal contact. Order extends through April 30th. Schools closed through May 4th (the entire school year).

 

You mean fortunately, as in they acted in time? Or you mean unfortunately and think they are too late?

 

He did also say something about there be no market to sell the vaccine (since the virus dissipated without one). I thought that he said the scientists were paid ahead of time to do the development. Maybe I misunderstood. I'd think that development and testing is one thing and mass production and distribution would be a separate process.

 

Daily federal Task Force update started a few minutes ago:

 

Yes he did say say that the companies got govt funding but they didn’t produce a vaccine.
the drug companies fund most of their research, but the govt chips in too.
https://www.thebalance.com/who-funds-biomedical-research-2663193

 

I myself said July 4th, but I'm honestly wanting to go even more extreme than that now. I want to extend it to October. Just don't ask me how we're going to recover financially because I don't know how.

 

I mean that it is unfortunate in the sense that I don't believe this situation is going to retract such that we can open up before that point.

 

This is the model that the press briefing is showing.

 

Yes, she is explaining why we are not using that model, but the one they introduced over the weekend.

 

Okay, got it. When I saw the model the government is going with, I figured that the U.S. is unlikely to let up on current restrictions until at least end of May, probably end of June or July. Although, if they were to restrain interstate travel (except for commerce products) some areas could go back to work, but it would be a tough choice to try to keep people for travelling between states for an extended period.

 

Ah ok, thank you for that clarification.

 

Birx and Fauci do a good job of explaining things.

 

She's saying what all of us on this thread already know. It's up to us to stay home - the model doesn't matter. If we don't control our own behavior we will suffer the steep curve with over a million deaths.

It's not up to them; it's up to us.

Okay. So we can do "one more set". The new 30-day plan (probably to be followed by another set of 30).