Why was New York Unprepared

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  1. Lesh

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    Ask Alex Jones. He has all the answers
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everybody wants to play Monday morning quarter back. Actually, 3rd quarter QB.

    It isnt helpful. Not now. Maybe in the future. The bickering, the partisanship, the blame game.

    In all honesty, its shameful. No, worse than that. Its despicable.

    It's time to be adults, including this forum.
     
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    Di Blasio and Health Commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot.

    "Critics of the mayor’s performance insist that a surplus of confidence and a deficit of focus — a combination eerily similar to the one that has plagued the White House — kept de Blasio from taking the steps necessary to protect his citizens. Wanting to show that they would not be cowed by the outbreak, his public health officials missed precious weeks in which preparations and precautions could have saved lives. On Feb. 9, for example, the city’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, urged people to attend a Lunar New Year celebration in Chinatown, telling them not to “change any plans due to misinformation.”"
    YAHOO NEWS, The mistakes that turned New York into an epicenter of the coronavirus epidemic, By Alexander Nazaryan, National Correspondent , March 27, 2020
    https://news.yahoo.com/the-mistakes...er-of-the-coronavirus-epidemic-090040375.html
     
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    Why WAS OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT THE LEAST BIT PREPARED????Maryland GOP Governor just said that Dirty Donald lied when he claimed we had adequate testing, he says we are nowhere near adequate.
     
  5. EyesWideOpen

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    Educate yourself. I found both of these links with a 3 minute search. You should try that, instead of being lazy and citing the wiki

    Federal officials repeatedly warned that US hospitals lacked enough ventilators
    A May 2003 GAO report found that "few hospitals have adequate medical equipment, such as the ventilators that are often needed for respiratory infections ... to handle the large increases in the number of patients that may result" from an infectious disease outbreak.

    Strategic National Stockpile
    The Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) holds an inventory of ventilators of various types that can be deployed during a public health emergency if public health and healthcare facilities need additional ventilators to care for patients. Currently, there are three ventilator models in the SNS: Covidien (Puritan Bennett) LP10, Vyaire (CareFusion) LTV1200 and the Zoll (Impact Implementation).


    Face masks in national stockpile have not been substantially replenished since 2009
    But the stockpile’s reserves were not significantly restored after the 2009 pandemic, in the view of industry and public health experts.

    And on and on it went, year after year, presidential administration after presidential administration. And what did the CDC do in all of that time? Nothing. They just kept on putting off ensuring we were prepared.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The CDC assured Trump they had everything under control, and this is what Trump told us all. If anyone was lying it was all those federally employed experts at the CDC, NIH, HHS, HLS, etc...
     
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    Most of the ventilators sent to California by the Feds. were broken and non functioning.The state sent them out to a company called Bloom energy, which provides alternative to electric suppliers energy for companies and small condo complexes.This companies engineers repaired and rehabilitated them.
     
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    I am so glad that we do not have our entire health care system controlled and run by the feds. If we did, then the private sector would not have been able to bail out the CDC for all their failures to provide.
     
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  10. Lesh

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    The CDC is an EXECUTIVE Department Agency. That means the White House appoints it's leadership and overseas it.Trump ran the show for THREE YEARS.
    They DO control the National Stockpile of ventilators...

    They do NOT control PPE or masks or anything of the other things you're whining about

    And why did they not have enough ventilators? Because "austere Republicans" in Congress would not provide the necessary money
     
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    It's a State function and the states are supposed to have themselves prepared with the first responders and the hospitals. The federal government assists the states.
     
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    No that would be Andrew " Little Mario " and his Brother.
    No finer example than what Chris Cuomo is pulling right now on
    CNN as he still hosts his 9 PM show from home while being
    declared Positive with the Cornavirus.Funny ... not as much as a
    sniffle.Or watery eyes.Or raspy throat.In fact he healthy enough to
    spend virtually every minute of the last 30 minutes { it's just before 9:30 }
    finding ways to Criticize this President.In THE Most obvious of ways.
    How about using the Fat faced Governor of Illinois { J.B.Pritzker }
    to help pile-on with additional criticism..Again how obviously political.
    Now a young Female is being used by Chris Cuomo to pull additional
    heartstrings.Get the young crowd on board with Whatever Big Democrats
    from Big Democrat States are demanding.
    This is so obviously Political.Pathetically.
    I just heard from a friend that the Downtown University Hospital
    in Louisville was basically empty today.He was there to have his
    daughter tested because she is Pregnant.
    Explains why the move to not allow press into hospitals to
    report on what they find.They are gonna find many beds available.
    Cuomo is acting like there is something We the People can do
    in regards to this Virus.Like having on a person who is making a plea
    to not expect to use this Malaria Drug.It shouldn't be used.Not yet.
    That makes about as much sense as asking a Johns Hopkins Surgeon
    for a kinky haircut.
    If it saves just one life { Hydrochloroquine } then it was worth trying.
    But we already know it works.Which obviously would create a
    dilemma for anyone wanting this Virus to spread and get worse and
    create a real panic.So as to have someone viable to blame.
    Like Orange Bad Man.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plus we are learning by the day how Andrew Cuomo Lies.
    He uses his family { Mother and loved ones } for a tearjerker
    appeal.With him making sure the Hospitals run on time.
    yeah right.The same guy who bullied any New Yorker that's a
    conservative needs to just leave New York.They don't share
    a New Yorkers mindset.Meaning ... Abortion on demand.
    Gun banning.Higher and higher taxes.Illegals can expect
    a Sanctuary State c/o of Big Boss Cuomo.
    Past the Hudson most those in New York can't stand
    Cuomo.
     
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    Did you read the links I posted? Good grief, one of these failures by the CDC stated way back it during the GW Bush admin, and the others have been ongoing all throughout the Obama admin.

    IF the CDC had resupplied the PPE for the national stockpile back in 2009, we would not be lacking in masks, face shields, gowns and ventilators!!!!!

    You people trying to blame Trump for everything are only making fools of yourselves.
     
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    Case in point, the UK's NHS is failing them, that could be us, if we were dumb enough to become a universal health care system, completely run by the incompetent feds:

    UK firm is selling coronavirus testing kits to EIGHTY countries because labs here 'can't cope' - while NHS swabbing stations stand deserted in Britain

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock has intervened to end the embarrassing situation where thousands of tests have been unused and a vast NHS swabbing station also stood deserted yesterday.

    Huge numbers of doctors, nurses and other crucial NHS staff are at home self-isolating but most have not been tested for coronavirus. The failure is causing growing anger because many could return to work if cleared of having the virus.

    A source said the Mr Hancock had now scrapped a rule that 85 per cent of tests were reserved for patients, regardless of how many needed testing.
     
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    The entire world was caught with it's pants down, it's folks like you who live to point fingers at Trump but this is a product of the Obama administration. During his tenure Obama cut funding to the CDC to bankroll pet projects like Solyndra and being the good Marxist that he is, didn't give a flying feck for the people.
     
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    Why is this surprising? This is how it goes down in liberal run cities. New yorkers voted for that trash and now they have to deal with the consequences
     
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    New York, Detroit, Philly, Flint, Baltimore, Lansing, San Fran to name a few. No surprise
     
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    I read your links. Did you?

    What you quoted

    "The CDC is an EXECUTIVE Department Agency. That means the White House appoints it's leadership and overseas it.Trump ran the show for THREE YEARS.
    They DO control the National Stockpile of ventilators...

    They do NOT control PPE or masks or anything of the other things you're whining about

    And why did they not have enough ventilators? Because "austere Republicans" in Congress would not provide the necessary money"

    Was what they said
     
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    do you get it? The CDC had two decades of problems getting ventilators, but you think it's Trump's fault. As if Trump was supposed to know that the CDC was not buying ventilators?????

    Federal agencies warned of ventilator shortages for nearly two decades

    Federal officials repeatedly warned that US hospitals lacked enough ventilators

    This was an existing problem, the CDC knew about it, and they failed to act. The CDC also failed to restock the needed PPE, and the FDA had rules in place making it impossible for the USA to perform any large scale testing of the COVID-19 virus. All of these failures came crashing down in February 2020. These were preexisting issues, and in no way were they Trump's fault. Even Obama was not aware of these problems or I'm sure he would have made sure to fix them.
     
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    Yes. The Obama Administration drew down 3/4ths of the N95 respirators and never restocked them.

    Trump shipped NY thousands of ventilators, they warehoused them and then Cuomo lied and claimed they only sent four hundred. Once Trump pantsed him for his warehouse hoarding, Cuomo has since shut up about the ventilators.

    Other than lying about the ventilators though, I think Cuomo has done a decent job, especially with the daily communication.

    STEPPING UP: Ventilator manufactor Medtronic gives away patents to its competitors.
     
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    Federal agencies warned about shortages.

    Know why it mattered that he disbanded the Pandemic Response Team?

    Because for one thing THOSE were the people who would have been stressing this
     
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    That is so silly, it's nothing but a red herring. You don't know what that pandemic response team's duties were, you have no clue as to how, or even if, the team might have impacted what we are doing today. You just toss out the team like a red herring
     
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    NY was unprepared because the libs did not take the virus seriously. They ignored the president’s warnings. Called his actions to combat it, an overreaction and literally ripped up his speech discussing the Chinese virus.
     
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    Why do you continue to throw out claims that have been totally debunked? It’s really a sign of desperation
     
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