NYC is breaking down !!! Crime surge

You cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or efficacy of, doing so, especially in the face of the current national emergency.

 

Ultimately for what legitimate purpose?

 

Making it harder for the law abiding to protect themselves during a time of national emergency. *

* This is legitimate in the minds of those who believe the state should have a monopoly on force

 

Sure can:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/10/22/facts-about-guns-in-united-states/

https://qz.com/1095899/gun-ownership-in-america-in-three-charts/

 

None of which demonstrates legal firearm owners are responsible for any significant percentage of the illegal misuses of firearms in the united states. All that which is presently presented is conjecture, opinion, and the causation/correlation substitution fallacy.

 

Not the point I was making: the point is they are not essential businesses right now with so many (high %) of US firearms owners. There are other data sources to make that point that they do contribute to higher illegal uses.

 

Such is ultimately irrelevant to the discussion. Constitutional rights are not suspended on the basis of how many individuals are currently exercising or not exercising them. There is no litmus test, or quota system, in the united states for determining that constitutional rights do not apply simply because not enough individuals, or too many individuals, are legally exercising them at any given there.

And such data is false.

 

Show me...

 

The claim on the part of yourself is the legal firearm owners contribute to the illegal misuse of firearms. Therefore the burden of proof is on the part of yourself to demonstrate that such is factually correct.

 

You claim that legal firearm owners do not contribute to illegal misuse, so you should show me how this is false.

 

Please quote the text that, you believe, demonstrates he necessity for, or efficacy of, closing gun stores in the face of the current national emergency, and explain why said text makes that demonstration.

 

Department of Homeland Security, the defining federal agency, disagrees with you.
Why are you right?

 

Simple, there is no need to currently provide firearms with so many US citizens already owning firearms and ammunition.

 

You say that DOH disagrees with me; how do we know that is true really? You are also committing an appeal to authority fallacy, but we will skip that one for now...

 

Thank you for confirming that you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or the efficacy of, closing gun stores in the face of the current national emergency.

 

Simple:
The people that make these determinations, made the determination.
Its not a fallacious appeal to authority when you quote the authority.

 

Actually that is exactly what an appeal to authority fallacy is...

 

More Fox 'hair on fire' hyperbole. Fox endangered millions of people by down-playing this pandemic. Trumpers followed the lead of Fox who constantly minimized the threat. Every one of Fox hosts fell in line and deceived the public. Case in point is the guy in Maryland who was arrested for blatantly and intentionally thumbing his nose at his state's order against gatherings by 10 or more people. If people are too stupid to realize the deadly seriousness of this epidemic then stupid people are a danger to all of us and stupid people need to be contained and controlled.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-york-city-sees-surge-in-major-crime
On March 27, officers arrested Shawn Marshall Myers, 41, after he hosted about 60 people at his home for a bonfire. It was the second time Myers had held a large gathering in a week after agreeing to break up another party at his home March 22.

Hogan said the arrest " sends a great message out there to folks that we're not playing around.

"When you do something like this you're not only endangering your life, but the lives of our fellow citizens, and we're not going to tolerate it."

 

You are ignoring the evidence.

 

Nothing resembling evidence has actually been presented on the part of yourself, just opinion and speculation.

 

Fascinating, but incorrect claim.

 

Based on what?

 

Are they being broken into?

 

You mean during this crisis, or for the rest of time?

 

The crisis only.