Trump Warned America About Coronavirus In Speech That Pelosi Tore Up

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...I really don't know what you are talking about...he declared a national emergency two days after it was declared a pandemic. That's just a fact
     
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    The lying Chinese Communists are indefensible, and to your point, those that attempt to do so after their evil has become undeniable have wisely gone silent.

    "RED" refers to the fact that they are Communists. They are run by the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party.
    "CHINA" to the fact that is the name of their Country.

    To slander another as prejudiced for describing them in these accurate terms is silly and you should apologize and retract your false claim. Remember, false claims won't save a single life!

    The way they use trade to steal and spy on us. The lies they told that loosed this pandemic on the world, once we are on the other side, there needs to be a reckoning.

    Two more macOS in China's Zoom flaws surface, as lawsuit & government probe loom.

    The second flaw, which is arguably more concerning, allows a local user or piece of malware to piggyback on Zoom’s camera and microphone permissions. An attacker can inject malicious code into Zoom’s process space and “inherit” camera and microphone permissions, allowing them to hijack them without a user’s knowledge.​

    The class action, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, alleges that Zoom gave personal user information to third parties without being explicitly clear about the data-sharing practices, CBS News reported. New York Attorney General Letitia James has also launched a probe into Zoom’s privacy policies.​

    In a separate development, Zoom may also be inadvertently leaking user email addresses and photos to complete strangers, according to Motherboard.​

    It’s pretty safe to conclude that Zoom is Chinese spyware masquerading as a videoconferencing app.

    Because of their lies, we are relying on it for social distancing. With this being a lawsuit, the claims will need to be proven in Court and Zoom will have an opportunity to mount a defense if China's actions are defensible. We'll see how it comes out, but, so far, it looks like Trump has been more right about China than any president in a very long time. While he was limiting travel from China, Pelosi was impeaching him, committed a felony by tearing up OUR speech on national TV, and then encouraged mass attendance to Chinese New Year in the SF Bay Area just a few weeks before the entire 6 county area had to go on lock down to slow the spread of the pandemic.

    And now she is pushing taxcuts for Millionaires and Billionaires? What in the world is wrong with this woman, hasn't she done enough harm to the US this year?
     
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  3. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Telling. ^^^

    Do you know where she is ???

    Red China isn’t communist anymore ???
     
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    Yet whilst Trump soft-pedaled the threat in conversation publicly he acted prudently, swiftly and with authority behind the scenes. The administration was issuing travel restrictions and quarantine orders in January thru February.

    Contemporaneously Dems and the media were having an impeachment orgasm. Bashing the administration was the rage, the more demagogic the better, damn truth so long as it fits the harm Trump at all costs narrative.

    Trump's xenophobic, wrong to place travel restrictions on China let's dance in the streets!

    Coronavirus is just a racist tool overblown by Trump to discriminate go see a movie.

    Hydroxychloroquine is bad because Trump suggests it might be efficacious treating Coronavirus, ban it! Threaten Doctors that prescribe it!

    The list is long.......
     
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    You might have a point if the single most valuable strategy against the virus wasn't limiting contact. Unfortunately (for trump) it is, which means his "soft-pedaled" public response was likely orders of magnitude more damaging than his travel restrictions were helpful. His "soft-pedaled" public is still bearing bitter fruit to this day.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't forgotten. From your link:

    "Among other provisions, the two sides appeared to have reached an agreement, at least in principle, to ensure substantial oversight over a $500 billion economic stabilization fund that would be used to bail out distressed companies ..."

    The issue with the first few iterations of the bill was the $500 billion in corporate bailout money that was to be doled out by Mnuchin however he wanted, with no congressional oversight whatsoever. That's half a trillion dollars of our money that the GOP wanted carte blanche. Once oversight was included, giving congress the power to direct recipient corporations on how they could spend the money (i.e., distribute to workers, not CEOs, and not to be used for stock buybacks), the bill was passed.

    Your second link corroborates that. McConnell tried to sneak the original bill, without the oversight, onto the floor while Schumer and Mnuchin were still working on it.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please link to proof of your claims. Until you do, your credibility is questionable.
     
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    Corporations employ people.
     
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  9. struth

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    The vote was simply to consider the bill...not the final bill, the left blocked after they had worked weeks in a bipartisan fashion to get to that point...and only after Nancy P came back to town and pulled Chuck's ear...she wanted her own bill passed

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/488881-pelosi-says-no-deal-reached-on-coronavirus-funding-bill

    After her extortion backfired, did the actual relief aid get passed.
     
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    There is an entire thread on the lie told by China.

    Do you know where Ai Fen is ???
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously, why do you keep doing this? You spew hateful rhetoric, you don't back up your claims, then you incorrectly dismiss the facts that others provide to you? Why is that? And you're not the only one. It's a phenomenon that I only find coming from the right, especially from Trump supporters.

    If you don't like my facts, why do you refuse to provide your own? Don't you have any?
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/world/world...ry-tweet-china-human-transmission-coronavirus

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    https://thehill.com/changing-americ...0291-who-admits-error-in-assessment-of-deadly
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where did I "blow off" anything? I've provided the facts that the NSC created a pandemic olaybook during the Obama administration, and further provided the fact that the Trump administration chose to ignore that playbook. In another post on this thread, I actually helped you find the evidence for your claim that Obama did not replenish supplies after the H1N1 outbreak in 2009-2010.

    Please quote me on praising Obama or anyone else on the left for their failures.

    Sorry to be so blunt, but the few errors (some big, some nothing much) from previous administrations, both Republican and Democrat, pale in comparison to the gross incompetence that the Trump administration displays regularly.
     
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    Exactly right. Typical in that when I make a claim, I back it up. Typical in that unlike Trump supporters, I provide facts to support my views. Typical in that unlike righties, I don't keep spouting the same debunked nonsense in thread after thread.
     
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    Did you not read my entire post? I freely admitted that the Obama administration failed to replenish N95 mask supplies. I even helped a Trump supporter back up his claim!

    No good deed ever goes unpunished. I suspect that since it seems to be your habit of denying any culpability by Trump, you just assume that an anti-Trumper like myself would be equally in denial about the errors of Democrats. They call that projection.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the Bush document is outdated (written in 2005) and if you try to link to the PDF from the White House's website, you get an error. And BTW, the Obama administration did use the Bush playbook:

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103908247

    (Do you see how I immediately included a link to back up my claim? You really should try that.)

    Massive blunders? Sigh ... again I ask, proof? And Obama did not open us up to ebola. One health care volunteer who had worked with victims in Africa was allowed to return home for treatment under strict quarantine. Do you remember who was freaking out over that? Hint: it wasn't the left.
     
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    So now you are saying they did use it...but it was outdated...and they still used it?

    Fact is they didn't use it...and much more in depth and detailed plan then the 69 page powerpoint...if they had used it, they would have refilled the stockpile they used

    Yeah he did...he brought the virus here. No they left didn't care that Obama brought one of the deadliest virus on Earth to the United States...there was more then one case.
     
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    I did...specifically when you said they were right wing sources....clearly Bloomberg and LA Times aren't. Either you didn't actually read the article, or you were intentionally spreading misinfromation...either is possible, leftist do what leftist do
     
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    What was debunked, according to Bloomberg.com he did not restocked. You went off on me for no reason. Typical.
     
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    Whats gross is depleting a critical supply (masks) and not restocking for the next guy. Just how Lefties act. Worried about their own behinds.
     
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    Of course he ignored that Trump had 3 years to fix it.
     
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    Chinese government lying about coronavirus could impact U.S. business ties: Experts.

    China’s cases appear dramatically underreported

    Narrator's Voice: "They are still lying."

    The likelihood that the Chinese government is hiding the real number of coronavirus cases and deaths in the People’s Republic could spur U.S. industries to dial down their dependency on China for medicine, electronics and other products, experts tell the Herald.

    There’s an overwhelming skepticism about China’s reported 82,000 coronavirus cases and 3,300 deaths, in a nation of 1.5 billion people. Chinese leaders have claimed coronavirus is only a problem in Wuhan and the Hubei province, which many experts doubt.

    The highly contagious disease started there late last year and cases surged before the numbers suddenly halted at around 80,000 cases. Then any new cases trickling in were called “imported” cases from other countries.

    “They have obviously been lying,” said American Enterprise Institute’s Derek Scissors. “We don’t know the spread, we don’t know the mortality rate. We don’t know what the hell happened in China.”

    Trump was right about China. He warned the Congress about Coronavirus at the SOTU and Nancy Pelosi tore up the speech.
     
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    I and many others have given you the facts. Communist Red China is responsible for all these deaths. That is a fact. Where is Ai Fen ??

    The left blames Trump to avoid blaming communist Red China.
     
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    That's because the CCP is majority owner of the :democrat:. Rule#1 in politics is never talk smack about the evil that owns you.
     
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    Not once, anywhere on this thread or any other, have I defended the actions of China. Talk about false allegations! Look into a mirror, please. I simply pointed out that inane nicknames show our biases. For example, you won't see me use names like "orange foolius" or "obummer" to refer to a president. Now do I use derogatory names like "Trumptards" to describe Trump's supporters.

    It is kind of you to come to another's defense, but I strongly suggest that you refrain from jumping into the middle of someone else's debate. Go back to the beginning. Better still, just post your own opinions without the high horse judgment on someone you don't know.

    And BTW, I don't think we can blame everything on China. For example, there's the fact that most of our pharmaceutical companies contract their manufacturing out to cheap Chinese labor, so if China sends us defective medicines in the wake of this crisis, call it the consequences of Corporate American greed. Same goes for a lot of the shenanigans China plays with goods, services, and information that they export back here. We made that bed. And sorry, but I don't believe that a corporate-friendly administration like Trump's is going to solve that problem. So far, his trade "deals" have made things worse.
     
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