Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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    Sorry to hear that Stat. Terrible news for all concerned.
     
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    In the UK all the parties are united behind the government. It seems like it is only in the US where party politics is more important than life or death
     
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    Delete, can't get Johns Hopkins file to attach
     
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    Current U.S. snapshot...


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    I texted her the other day, she's been coughing pretty violently but her fever's stabilized a bit. Being long distance from your mother hurts, but now my grandmother has different non-COVID19 issues. She's had fainting spells every now and then and just the other day we discovered a lump on her head while she was brushing her hair.

    Normally, of course you'd go and get this checked out but with COVID-19, going to the hospital is a risk. It might end up being something like: "You've got a benign mass in your head, oh sorry now you have COVID-19 as a diabetic and slightly overweight lol."
     
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    Thank you for the data.

    Worldmeters is slightly ahead of John Hopkins. The two often play a little-bit of hopscotch with each other:

    2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 MOD 005 USA 210000 cases.png

    From 2 minutes ago. Today (GMT +2 time) thus far, +644 deaths in the USA. +667 in Spain. +727 in Italy. +563 in England. +509 in France. +138 in Iran. +134 in both Germany and in the Netherlands. +123 in Belgium. Big numbers overall.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your grandmother and mom. I certainly hope that the lump on your grandmother's head is from a fainting spell and not the worse alternative. They are trying to start to separate Covid patients from people with non-communicable diseases. If that lump gets worse, I hope you'll call a doctor. Tele-medicine maybe? I think they have made that available now to everyone on Medicaid/Medicare.
     
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    Yeah, ironically she had a 'tele-appointment' yesterday and I asked her if she had mentioned her fainting spells, she didn't. Or her once dry cough that's now almost entirely gone too. In her mind, it was mostly an appointment to get her prescriptions(she used to be ecliptic too, so that's an issue clearly.)

    I think we should definitely call back.
     
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    Governor Ron DeSantis now says he'll take the 49 Floridians off the cruise ship sitting of his shores, but he won't take the other 250 Americans or the 400 Canadians.

    So much for the country pulling together. And Canadians opened THEIR homes to us in the aftermath of 911.

    Meanwhile, there are hundreds if not thousands of empty hotel rooms within 2 miles of Port Everglades where these people could be quarantined.

    Apparently, Americans who aren't Floridians aren't good enough for Ron DeSantis.

    I will never forget this vicious partisanship, nor will I EVER forgive it.

    DeSantis can gladly go **** himself royally.
     
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    Panama is separating men and women in public in order to stop the spread.
    Men get M-W-F, women get T-TH-SA, Sundays everyone is supposed to stay home.

    Never seen this kind of method before. It surprised me.
     
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    Agreed, you mention the empty hotel rooms as a possible way to quarantine these individuals safely. And that's the important thing, we can't forsake our fellow man during this crisis. That doesn't make anyone safer. It only assures that these individuals(or a portion thereof) are likely to die.
     
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    Meh. From one of the large cruise ships which docked in California, all the Californians disembarked in California, people from other states were flown to their respective states, and non-U.S. citizens were set back to sea for the cruise line to return them home. Many E.U. countries have shut their borders to each other. With states' rights, the individual states here often have as much independent autonomy as each individual country under the E.U. umbrella. State or country sovereignty is not "partisan"; it's self-protective.

    If China had shut it's own border before two months passed, and protected the rest of the world, no one else would be having to do this.

    We have unity....from a distance. Haha. :p
     
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    Every state is planning to use empty hotels to separate Covid patients from non-Covid patients when their surge hits, and Florida will get hit hard. Those rooms will be full of Floridians within the next 30 days.
     
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    They are? I guess people are smarter in the UK.
     
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    (I'm keeping my hand fans just in case ... ;^)
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    I think it's a huge mistake that there is no distance at all between the participants of the White House daily briefings. Do all seven people need to be up there at the podium? Couldn't they stay apart and take turns?
     
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    Well of course. Because that is the government plan to deal with failure in the private sector. If you read the link it explains how such programs can be expanded in an almost unlimited fashion to provide food to those who need it. That is your concern, right?

    Yes most management is by the private sector. As it should be. Otherwise you end up with problems like this.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/puerto-rico-distributes-supplies-left-rot-warehouse/story?id=68409678
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    n this country business and government are in a partnership for best results. Here is a place to start if you are interested in details.

    https://training.fema.gov/programs/emischool/el361toolkit/assets/cikr_pandemicinfluenzaguide.pdf

    Just because you don’t see it on a daily basis doesn’t mean government and industry don’t have plans in place. One good example that is common knowledge to those familiar with transportation is this.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...-driver-hours-of-service-suspended-2020-3?amp

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    nother commonly used way to increase movement of goods is increasing weight limits on trucks. We already do this seasonally in agriculture, allowing 15% over normal gross operating weights during harvest. Obviously this isn’t necessary when it’s toilet paper and masks that need moved (at least I hope it’s obvious) but if actual food was the problem this relaxation on GVW would be the next logical step. And this isn’t theoretical. All this has been done in local and regional disasters before.


    We have a disconnect here. You are talking about convenience and I am talking about food. My comment on making a pizza was to try and convey the difference between hunger and inconvenience. A box of cereal is a luxury. Has very little nutrition and is one of the most inefficient means of delivering nutrition to the human body. I haven’t done the math for a while but over 90% of the price of cereal is labor, packaging, transportation and marketing. To even use it as an example in a discussion on food scarcity confuses me.



    Thanks for the link. I’ll point out just a few of the things in the link that are less than accurate or just incorrect from a lack of knowledge standpoint.

    First, your link is operating from the same premise you are—that hunger and not having 16 flavors of ice cream available are equivalent. They are two very different things and while the risk of the lack of ice cream is real, the risk of actual hunger is about zero. I’ll use cheese and other dairy products as an easy example. Your link mentions the US not having government grain reserves and that is true on one level. I’ll address that later, but for now let’s look at what the government can do on the dairy side. Here’s a link for context.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag....vernment-do-with-1-4-billion-pounds-of-cheese

    As my link in my previous post pointed out, the federal government is in the food procurement and distribution business on a large scale already. Not just SNAP. Everything from school lunch programs to supplying food banks. Often food products are purchased in large quantities when prices are depressed and stored long term, just like the cheese example above.

    It is true we no longer have government owned grain reserves. It isn’t necessary because the private sector handles it. Here are current USDA data ending stocks as reported by Brownfield Ag.
    During the Cold War, the federal government spent a lot of money subsidizing on-farm grain storage construction. On my place there is close to 100,000 bushels of storage capacity that was funded mostly by the government back in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s. Such structures are all over the country, and combined with commercial storage they allow the storage of the large ending stocks referenced above. At this point storage by the government is redundant and an unnecessary cost to taxpayers.

    My point on grain reserves is simply that we have more food here than we can eat. Again, it may not be as fun to eat as potato chips, but just about any farmer today has the ability to deliver 1000-1300 bushels of corn or wheat just about anywhere it’s needed in short order. And many would whether the federal government was involved or not.

    Finally, while I disagree that there is danger of actual hunger from this pandemic, I think your commentary is certainly instructive. It shows very few actually understand what hunger is and how to differentiate it from inconvenience. Furthermore, as spoiled as most people are, I suppose riots are a possibility if people are denied organic kale or cool ranch Doritos for 30-60 days and must eat rice and beans. :)
     
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    Exactly that thought crossed my mind too. Oh, and on a lighter note, it appeared that Trump seemed to have overdone the fake tan in the clip I saw
     
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    As we track the hot spots in Italy, Germany and the USA, it looks like Trump was right again!

    FROM MICHIGAN, WHERE THE GOVERNOR JUST FLIP-FLOPPED FROM DENOUNCING THIS TREATMENT AS A TRUMP LIE TO DEMANDING THAT THE FEDS SHARE STOCKS OF THE DRUG: Henry Ford Health System uses hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 symptoms, says benefits outweigh risks.

    “We feel that there is data both from the early published studies as well as from our colleagues in China that have treated a number of patients to justify its use in the therapy of sicker patients that are hospitalized with coronavirus infection.”​

    Dr. Zervos says the goal of using hydroxychloroquine is to prevent patients with symptoms like shortness of breath and pneumonia from progressing further in their illness, and to get those patients already in an intensive care unit and on a ventilator off the ventilator earlier and out of the hospital.
    Both are VERY important way points to reach.

    “What we know about the drug now is that it does reduce viral shedding, you know, the amount of virus a person has, it’s lower. There have been studies from China to show that patients have shorter hospitalizations, fewer complications, lower likelihood of progression.”
    Less shedding lowers the danger to our front-line health care workers.

    It’s not the best drug imaginable, but it is the best drug available. They’re combining it with Azithromycin and also with Doxycycline.

    In terms of US hot spots
    • Michigan has the 3rd highest infected rate, right behind NY an NJ.
    • 3rd highest number of new cases so far today, again, trailing only NY and NJ.
    • 3rd highest total deaths, behind the same two states.
    • 3rd highest new deaths and active cases.
    Clearly NY, NJ and Michigan are our hot spots.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    We need to be helping them in every way we can. Trump's remarks about these very helpful drugs couldn't have come at a better time. Probably a LOT of lives are going to be saved. And without a big windfall to Big Pharma, as these are inexpensive drugs already listed among our safest, these drugs have been around for a very long time, and are even available in generic form, so this is very good news for the American People. Big Pharma can still make a big score if they can create a vaccine, that would be very valuable for the whole world, but, they are not going to make a killing on these drugs. They are no longer under patent and they are very inexpensive to produce. Those are good things for the American People.

    Certainly better results than some of the other attempts

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    I’m sorry many people are having difficulties finding stocked shelves. But Pence is correct, it’s not an availability problem it’s hoarding combined with just in time deliveries. I agree with you, I thought the hoarding would slow down by now.

    It’s my hope that when this is over, sensible people learn to be prepared for this at all times. Then hoarders and empty shelves are of no concern.

    Since I don’t grocery shop in March and April anyway just based on my business and lifestyle it’s easy for me to forget the struggles many others are having today.

    Don’t let tortillas without meat or cheese get you down! Butter, cinnamon and sugar make a great filling. :)
     
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    Ummm, yeh. Your point? Do you think Trump ordered millions of units of aquarium additive?
     
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    *930,639*
    +76,450 cases today over yesterday

    So, at end of day, 11:58 PM on April 1st, 2020 (GMT +2), the COVID-19 numbers:


    2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 001.png

    Today, we sailed over the 900,000 mark. Just yesterday, we sailed over the 800,000 mark. Very, very likely we will cross over the 1,000,000 mark tomorrow.

    But by far most critical thing from today's data, absolutely inescapable, is once again the marked rise in the death rate, to 5.03%. (It was 4.92% yesterday at EOD) This is the first time since I began tracking the COVID-19 statistics starting February 27th, 2020, that the death rate hit the 5% mark.

    The Excel-Table back to 02/27 (you will notice, the table now fills up the entire screenshot, soon I will need 2 to cover the table):

    2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 002.png

    In the raw numbers, there were somewhat more new cases today over yesterday (+76,450) as compared to yesterday over the day before (+73,192). The somewhat good news is that as the pie overall grows larger, these numbers actually represent a smaller growth rate. So, for the second day in a row, we saw total COVID-19 cases growth rate under 10% (8.95%, yesterday it was 9.37%), which, over time, would definitely flatten an exponential curve.

    In terms of deaths: 46,774 total, +4,759 today over yesterday, making for a 11.33% growth rate (yesterday: 11.86%), is not good. The growth rate of deaths from today to yesterday once again outpaced the growth rate of COVID-19 cases added to the sum total.

    The % of recovered people actually ticked upward very slightly, from 20.71% yesterday to 20.82% at EOD today.

    And per country, first per total cases, in descending numerical order:

    2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 003.png 2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 004.png 2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 006.png 2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 007.png

    There are now 50 nations in the "thousand club", with Columbia, Serbia, Argentina and Singapore crossing over the 1,000 line today. Of those 50, 13 are in the "10,000 club" and 3 of them are at 100,000 or more (USA, Italy, Spain). Tomorrow, Germany will surpass China's COVID-19 case total. Croatia, Algeria, Slovenia, Quatar and the United Arab Emirates are up next to cross the 1,000 line, either tomorrow or Friday.

    And here, per new deaths today, in descending numerical order. Spain had the most deaths today:


    2020-04-001 MOD COVID-19 EOD 008.png

    At the end of the day, Spain revised it's COVID-19 death total up to a catastrophal +923.

    The curve is still exponential.

    Good night.

    -Stat
     
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    If one’s church teaches a traditional rite is more important than the welfare of your fellow man, one’s involvement in such an organization ought to be seriously questioned.

    If one’s idea of the nature of God includes said God demanding self harm, one’s idea of the nature of God ought to be seriously questioned.

    I say this as an aspiring Christian.
     
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    This is the kind of crap that is going on in other threads.

    The difference between being blind sheep and being a free thinker is being able to break from the pack. It's knowing when to stop listening to the government I was at a birthday party last night. We gave hugs, poured drinks, and none of us were sick. The idea you have to stay at home is ridiculous. And I'm downright serious about everything I've typed. It's a civic duty of every American to disobey these frivolous stay at home orders, coast to coast. From California to New York. Whether you fulfill that civic duty or not is up to you, but one thing that will be exposed is the kind of character you have.

    I still work in these times, and yes I have every intention of working if I tested positive. I've worked through the regular flu before, this is no different. Again, we are not in a life or death situation here. I did the math, and we haven't reached the global total of fatalities from the Swine Flu. Let's stop letting the government think for us, tell us what to do, and thin for ourselves. And stay safe.
     
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