So, Trump lied again today...

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  1. Dayton3

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    I'm pretty sure President Trump never said the virus was a hoax but that the Democrats criticism of his handling of the virus was a hoax. And that argument can be made much more effectively.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Dodge and deflections are now your base argument? Wow.
     
  3. dairyair

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    And I never made such a claim either. Read again.
     
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    The democrats criticized when Trump imposed travel bans. Without those bans, there would be a lot more deaths. You can ignore that all you want, but Trump saved lives compared to what the democrats would have done.
    Not a deflection, just the truth. The virus caught most people by surprise. Trump took action when the democrats would have just set on their butts.
     
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    Who? Source?
     
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    Show me one who was out ahead of Trump on preventing the spread.
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

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    Show me one other politician of any party who was in the position of the President of the United States to f*ck up so monumentally.

    Not even his braying lickspittles with their bobble-headed goon squads who were spewing his denials of the known threat have such an impact.

    A perusal of the history of fanatical posts on these forums that refused to accept the scientific reality of the pandemic identifies the crackpots whose veneration of Fake Don prevented them from accepting the truth.
     
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    Show me one democrat who gave any indication he would have done better. The democrats did not correct Biden when he accused Trump of fear mongering. They ignored that stupid statement from the presumptive head of the democratic party.
     
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    Read the quote the answer is right there in black and white....


    As soon as you say " i think". It's impossible for it to be a lie..

    By all means you can be wrong but it can't be a lie.. another typical trump hating frabrication.
     
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    And the criticized him when we had 15 cases and he said it was going to ZERO. And its now over 200K? Everyone was right to criticize him. He wasn't taking it seriously. But keep defending all the inept. Keep defending the one who denied this was a problem.

    And yes, you are dodging and deflecting.
    Asking about some make believe D who could have done better. tRUMP in the one in charge.
     
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    Biden, your presumptive head of the democratic party, said Trump was fear mongering. Trump has made mistakes. Most people do under difficult circumstances. However, compared to Biden, who could be the next president, Trump is a genius.
     
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    The lie is that it's a mild cold. The common cold is actually often caused by a Coronavirus of some type. The quoted isn't false.
     
  13. dairyair

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    but but but but biden. but but but Dems. but but but, it's dark out.

    Good bye.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blaming Trump when Biden is so much worse must really be hard to take since he is your chosen one.
     
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    OK. He said that. And considering the constant mendacity and mischaracterizations by the press and by Democrats against the man, you can't blame Trump and Republicans in general for being cynical about the severity of this pandemic. Turns out what Trump said did not become a reality. What matters is that he was taking measures to curb the pandemic. And in my opinion, actions speak louder than words.

    One of the measures that the Trump Administration took was the travel ban to and from China, from which this disease originated. And how did House Democrats respond? Last month they were trying to "rein in the executive branch’s authority to declare travel restrictions" (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/7/house-democrats-schedule-vote-on-bill-to-dismantle/). This was days before Trump set a travel ban on 26 European countries, and, at the time, the spread of the disease infected over 100,000 people internationally. This was also a month after he declared the travel ban against China. What would the number have been in America if we did not have those travel restrictions? I presume it would be much greater. I don't see you bringing up these facts about Democrats. It's because you, like them, are politicizing it.

    Now, in post 91, you state that "150,000 cases . . . proves" that Democrats and their wholly owned subsidiary, the mainstream press, "weren't politicizing it." First off, the number of cases does not prove that they were not politicizing it. They were and continue to politicize it. They are politically weaponizing this virus in an attempt to undermine Trump, and it turns out that the American people don't like the politicization of death, which is why Trump's approval rating is up.
     
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    OMG. Biden isn't even a politician at the moment.
    tRUMP is the prez. All you do is dodge and deflect. You don't have an argument but to make up what ifs.
     
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    He took no measures early on.

    15 people have the virus. Soon it will be ZERO. By April when the weather warms it will go away.

    So, tRUMP is scared of D's? He won't do anything because the D's might say something mean? Come on. Who really listens to D's?

    tRUMP is in charge. He can be a leader or he can whine about how mean everyone is to him.
    It comes with the job. Be a leader or get out of the way. Quit blaming everyone.
     
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    What's ironic is you're talking about Trump lying, and yet you're lying about Trump not taking measures early on. The travel ban against China started in late January. I would argue that is early on--at least relatively early on, since Democrats in early March were trying to take measures to prevent the president from taking such measures as the China travel ban. The running theme of your argument is that Trump did not take this threat seriously early on, yet you have said nothing, absolutely nothing, about Democrats trying to undermine the executive branch's ability to control the flow of travel through our borders less than a month ago! How is that nothing short of partisan politicization of the virus against Trump?
     
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    But Biden is your chosen one. The one who will lead this country through the next crisis. You gripe about Trump and then pick Biden. God help us.
     
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    Yet another Trump supporter making a claim and providing no proof. A whataboutism, at that.

    What Democrats? Who were they talking to? What was the full context? When did this occur?

    So tired of you guys and your desperate efforts to make Trump look like a great leader. Please prove what you claim.
     
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    Do you deny that Biden said Trump was fear mongering when he imposed the China travel ban? If you are you need another news source.
     
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    If your ideological dogma causes you to fantasize that COVID-19 is the common cold, you may wish to dismiss tsunami warnings as expectations of surf.
     
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    When verbiage does not match verity, the conclusion is clear.
     
  24. Xyce

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    There are multiple strains of coronavirus; COVID-19 is just one of them.

    "According to Marie-Louise Landry, MD, an infectious disease expert at Yale Medicine and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory, four common human coronaviruses cause 15-30% of common colds." (https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms-vs-cold)

    Perhaps do some research instead of pretending that you are more informed on the subject than you are, for that statement you just made belies logic, as GrayMan was talking about coronavirus, not COVID-19 in particular.
     
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    Of course there are, and if you need to pretend that Limbaugh was expatiating, for some inexplicable reason, upon all four sub-groupings of coronaviruses in general,
    rather than the newsworthy COVID-19, there is nothing to prevent your doing so.

     
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