Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Well, off to pick up my pooch. He is waking up from surgery. Little narkose'd klingon warrior. K'apla!!!
     
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    Take a look at the lockdowns. They're not really lockdowns. Too many people deemed "essential" workers for one thing. This puts too many people out and about.
     
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    OMFG! :eek:

    Australia escalated to Cancel the Barbie status!

    Sorry, could not resist! ;)
     
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    Buying "guns" is "essential" because you need that AR-15 to defend yourself against the virus that you contracted when you picked it up. :eek:
     
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    Actually, more like the crooks who now have "suspended liberty" basically. I'm not saying anyone has the perfect solution(we don't, or we'd be universal in mind and thought right now. but as it is, this is going to be Hurricane Katrina on overdrive.
     
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    All the fast food joints and any restaurants that can do take out or delivery are open, too. Like any essential worker couldn't take lunch from home to work.

    We're doing "lockdown lite".
     
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    Yep. Barbie's off!

    However, we did jam the bottle shops as soon as lockdown was announced. Need something to do during lockdown.
     
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    I was at ground zero for Katrina. A hurricane comes and goes, then you pick up the pieces.

    This just keeps coming and coming and coming ......
     
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    If it turns into another Katrina that will be on all levels of government in the US. In the short term people need food, shelter, basic utilities, some money in their pocket and a good faith belief all those things will be there when they need them. That was not the case with Katrina and things went sideways. That was a terrible reflection on the US.

    Under normal circumstances government underpins those fundamentals to a point, but there are other layers & paths. In a situation like this, where people are required to suspend their normal lives and in many cases give up their ability to obtain those fundamentals by themselves, government becomes the main & often sole provider. Other industrialised nations are managing this without society breaking down. The US can too if it chooses to.
     
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    Those are cruise ships.
     
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    Asymptomatic transmission was a theory which most scientists believed to be true. You know how scientists won't commit to a solid "yes" or "no" until they have conclusions from formal experiment. Yesterday, CDC posted a write-up about the conclusion of a scientific test proving the theory.

    So based on the outcome of they study, the administration is considering whether we should all wear masks out in public. The objective of the mask still is not to protect the person wearing the mask, but to contain the particles from asymptomatic sick people when they sneeze/cough/speak/etc.
     
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    We are hoping the virus is seasonal, but since it's a novel virus, we don't really know that as fact until the world has gone through a year of season changes to verify.
     
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    A typical Texas summer. :p
     
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    That many of them with infected passengers on board?
     
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    We send particles when we speak? I learn something new everyday lol. But definitely, for the next couple of years social life is going to be totally different then ever before.
     
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    Not even China did a full lock down. The vast majority of people were free to go to the grocery store, unless they had tested positive for the virus.

    It should only take one person coughing and spitting on the elevator buttons in a high-rise apartment building to infect the entire building, unless there are a huge number of asymptomatic carriers or a large number of people who have a natural immunity for some reason, or both.

    China arrested multiple people for intentionally coughing and spitting during their "lockdown". A lot of teenagers apparently thought it was cool or funny. Given that, you'd think their infection rate would have been far higher than what they reported.

    We're having to arrest people here already with people spitting on produce and even directly on store employees. Shake my head.

     
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    So many people don't know how to boil water without burning it, and I wouldn't trust some with a butter knife and a jar of peanut butter.

    I heard that 50% of Americans eat all of their meals out. That's pretty sad, but keeping places open for drive-thru and takeout preserves a lot of jobs and keeps restaurant owners, which are very low-margin, able to pay their lease and overhead costs. I still hear a lot of local officials urging people to eat out to save the businesses and employees.
     
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    The Johns Hopkins map is showing "all cases", past and present, so the dots remain large. Most of the infected passengers are not on board.
     
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    Yesterday, I read an article about choirs which indicated that singers with "loud" voices send out more particles into the air. We've had a few cases of significant spread in choir groups. Most people aren't going to spit or "spray" a bunch of particles with normal speech you wouldn't think, but it also seems like if the virus is in ones upper lungs and nose then just exhaling one's breath could shed some virus.
     
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    So, this just happened about an hour ago as I picked my poochie up from the vet and decided to jump into a streetcar to get home (they are running, are however practically empty):

    20200402_121356.jpg

    The word you see at the bottom of the scroll-screen for the streetcar is "Bombenentschärfung", which in English means "bomb de-fusement".

    I made a short video of the scroll screen:



    Yes, that is my voice at the end of the video.

    So, what bomb is being defused, and where?

    2020-04-002 BOD COVID-19 bombenenstschärfung.png

    Right in the middle of the University Hospital in Bonn, where the COVID-19 patients are (Bonn is not overflowing, not yet...), where they are expanding the hospital campus to add a new heart-surgery wing, under the ground where they are building, a worker discovered a 250 KG (550 lb) "Blindgänger" (an unexploded, previously undiscovered) bomb from World War II. So, in a radius of 300 meter (1,000 feet), the hospital is being emptied so that the bomb-crew can de-fuse the bomb. The defusement is scheduled for 4 PM my time, in about 3 hours from now. So, of course, trams and busses are being re-routed, streets closed and so forth.

    The University Hospital (Uni-Klinik) of Bonn is a very fine hospital, well known for neuro and cardio-surgeries. It's located on a hill overlooking Bonn slightly from the East, called the "Venusberg". My daughter was born there. I know the hospital pretty well. Lots of my colleagues work there.

    A total of 200 patients, including the COVID-19 patients and 70 other ICU-cases, are getting moved, I assume, to my suburb of Bonn.

    This is not just a local story in Germany. It is a national story:

    https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panoram....urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200402-99-562170

    https://rp-online.de/nrw/panorama/b...evakuierung-von-patienten-laeuft_aid-49858287

    https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/rheinland/fliegerbombe-uniklinik-bonn-100.html

    https://www.wz.de/nrw/bombenentschaerfung-in-bonn-erschwerte-umstaende-durch-corona_aid-49873767

    But what just happened was a stark reminder to me that in spite of the COVID-19 pandemic, daily life has to go on, that police and fire and EMTs still have other work to do as well. It's all interconnected. 1-5 bombs from either WWII or (get this) WWI are discovered and defused every year in Germany. Just in January, one was found in Köln but to the best of my knowledge, this is the first time in a long time that an undetonated bomb was discovered under a hospital. You would be amazed how much of an explosion you can get from a 500 lb WWII bomb.

    And BTW, my little klingon warrior is a little groggy but doing well!

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    Yepp. This has affected me far more than you can know.
     
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    In which case the virus is NEVER going to be eliminated which essentially means that EVERYONE must now take their changes with being infected.

    The problem with the "informal" work sector is that it means they MUST work or starve because they are NOT provided with any aid from the government. This is a worldwide problem. We saw the rioting in southern Italy. The BBC link you provided mentioned it in South Africa and I heard that in India when Modi imposed his lockdown on just 5 hours notice it ended up stranding millions of informal sector workers miles from their homes and they have been forced to walk home.

    These people have no jobs, no money and no food and there are MILLIONS of them everywhere in every nation in the world.
     
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    So, the weekly jobs report is in:

    6.5 million filed for unemployment last week. This shatters all records out of the past, by far, for one single week.

    At least 3.3 million filed the week before.

    That makes for a total 9.8 million unemployed in circa two weeks.

    It usually takes months and months to get to this many unemployed, but we are living in unusual COVID-19 times.

    Each 1.5 million = 1% more in unemployment.

    So, 9 million = 6.5%. Added to the 3.4% already means that unemployment in the USA is currently 10.1%.

    And we are just at the beginning of this thing.
     
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