"States confront new reality under Trump"

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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    Go on - cite a single Democrat who called the travel restrictions xenophobic. Not someone who said that Trump had a record of xenophobia (which is demonstrably true), but someone who called the travel restrictions xenophobic.

    Betcha can't.
     
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    I see. You want to get into the semantics game. Sorry, not falling for it. Yes, Biden called Trump Xenophobic.

    Are you saying Biden did not call Trump Xenophobic?
     
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    Trump takes responsibility where he has responsibility unlike obama did.
     
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    Yes. Biden said Trump has a record of xenophobia. That’s true.

    But you claimed that Dems called the travel restrictions xenophobic. I have not found that. If you maintain it happened, prove it. Otherwise admit that you made a mistake.
     
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    LOL! So you admit Biden called Trump Xenophobic. Thanks for admitting your mistake.

    Where did I say Dems specifically called Trump's travel ban Xenophobic?
     
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    So governors don't want to do their jobs?
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right?

    And when he issues his next directive, these same leftists will argue he is "LitERaLlY HiTlEr!".
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't understand exactly what you are implying. Should Trump paint the pandemic with a broad brush and treat every state the same? We know there are a wide variety of differences in this Pandemic from State to State. Shouldn't governors be given the opportunity to declare what help is best to serve their state at any given time?

    I think the OP is confusing the premise that this Pandemic War is the same as a war of Nation against Nation where every state has a mutual concern that is mutually experienced at any given time. If you want to treat all 50 states as a solid collective we would need many states to "catch up" in the pandemic with New York (God forbid)
    As states become healthy they should be given opportunity to contribute to the economy in the National interest. It is not a one size fits all. Trump is taking the right approach.

    I am not sure if this isn't just an attempt to use the Pandemic as a means to "get" our President in the approach to an election. We are in an unfortunate situation that nobody asked for.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you imply he should just level with the American people and admit that he and Pence cooked this virus up in a private secured lab and infected the Nation? Wouldn't that make your day and serve the purpose for which you seek?
     
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    What is pathetic is your intent to weaponize an unfortunate situation against an administration you have hated since 2016.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again...what a pathetic attempt to paint this subject as a Nation against Nation War. That type of war effects the entire Nation equally and at the same time. This Pandemic War effects the States differently and they will recover differently. Every State has different needs at different times and it is in the National interest that they be treated accordingly. Sounds to me like another attempt to disparage our President that you have been against since he was elected. There is absolutely no comparison here to the Civil War or any other War against a Foreign Nation. Nevertheless it is a War!
     
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    I made no mistake.

    I note that you no longer assert that Dems called Trump's travel ban xenophobic.
     
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    He should, for example, take responsibility for downplaying the seriousness of the virus for several weeks, while it got a strong foothold in the country and is now exploding. But he won't. Because he is a coward and a narcissist.
     
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    Yawn we all heard Gov Newsom, a staunch cali liberal praising Trump just yesterday. He point blank said it was amazing the response and the openness Trump has provided. He said I've got to be objective and Trump has done everything I've asked and done so quickly. You guys claiming murder are some sick people, you do realize this is actual LIVES we're talking about here. This isn't some video game in your moms basement. I'm shocked the Moderators let this go on and even more shocked your fellow libs don't call you out. I guess it speaks to the sickness some have to take others suffering and try to gain some kind pleasure out of it. Karma's a bitch and you can beat she's coming for you.
     
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    All the major and most minor news agencies said it was a hoax and we didnt need to worry at all, all the way through January. When trump shut the down travel with china he was called a racist and a xenophobe. Now he didnt do it soon enough. You cant have it both ways.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...p-recovery-of-coronavirus-patients-study/amp/

    The malaria drug is not without basis.
     
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    Trump instituted the travel ban with china the same day the who declared it an emergency from china and was called a racists. Quit hating and start actually caring for others. Hating trump gets us no where in the time of need.
     
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    Trump opened the door, and lo and behold dozens of liberal tyrants jumped through. They alone must answer for their actions through their constituents in the next election. Blaming Trump won't help them....
     
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    The federal government should not be telling states how to run their state. They can support the state's decisions, make suggestions, and lend aid, but thats it.

    Trump has done an outstanding job throughout this crisis. I love how dems expect him to have a crystal ball. Everyone knows that if the federal government tried to lockdown the country when there were a dozen cases, everyone would have told the feds to **** right off. Hell, I'm still pissed my gym is closed even in today's situation. Trump has made appropriate decisions every step along the way.
     
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    Please identify ANYONE who called him a racist for instituting the travel ban.

    ANYONE!
     
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    Unfounded rant asides, It was the North who were the aggressors in the war between the states.
     
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    Joe biden



    He down played it verbally but did several very fast acting actions that helped like the travel restrictions. Anyone that had visited china and europe.
     
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    Actually he does. Which is a fact.
     
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    In each instance, please share with everyone the video so they too can see the context around those statements. They can see he is surrounded by a team of professionals/experts to combat it. It was always serious to him. You and spouting Left wing propaganda that removes the context for political points and that's disgusting in the face of an pandemic. It's not intellectually honest and your tactic is pathetic in these times.
     
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