Trump Warned America About Coronavirus In Speech That Pelosi Tore Up

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These deadly infectious viruses do seem to come from China more often than not. And this is yet another one that likely started spreading between humans due to the unsanitary conditions at another livestock market. That's how we got the swine flu, the bird flu, SARS, and MERS. Until China cleans up and revamps how they trade in livestock, they get the blame. They have a lot of blood on their hands.
     
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    What I need to see:
    -A complete closing of the wetmarkets, with no reopening whatsoever. This happened TWICE(as you mentioned SARS).
    -I need to see a food agency to the equivalent of the the FDA in America, and I need to see China be in line with food regulations around the world.(Almost every other country is in compliance with INTL rules for food.)

    -They can show their seriousness that their "wetmarkets" is what we in America would call POUCHING. Arrest these bastards for their cruel and inhumane abuse on animals.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah. She asked around for pork projects for the inevitable aid bill...
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, good grief. More whataboutisms?

    It took me a couple of minutes to find this:

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5933a1.htm

    Scroll down to the table. It only goes up to 2007, but look at the numbers for 1992-93 through 2005-06. The H3N2 strain, one of the swine flus, killed tens of thousands of Americans in a very non-partisan manner. Look at 2003-04 and 2004-05 -- it killed nearly 30,000 Americans in just those two years, and was likely the impetus for the Bush administration's pandemic playbook.

    The H1N1 swine flu that went pandemic in 2009 to 2010 was a new strain that the previous vaccine did not cover. Here is an interesting site:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/184574/deaths-by-influenza-and-pneumonia-in-the-us-since-1950/

    When you add in pneumonia desths, most of which start out with either the flu or a coronavirus like the common cold, look at the chart all the way back to 1950. Looks like our responses have improved greatly.

    Do you still want to whip out more partisan whataboutism? Because I could have easily just made a claim that more than 60,000 Americans died from the flu under Bush's watch.
     
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    That Entire "Whataboutism Narrative" is utterly Misguided.

    ^And Everybody KNOWS that.

    Trump Completely Dropped The Ball, and there is no equivalency (whatsoever) with Obama (and N1H1).

    Any attempt to Conflate N1H1 with COVID-19 is summarily dismissed.

    Trump WARNED Nobody.

    He was throwing mass rallies and calling the Virus a Hoax.

    Donald Trump? :roflol: :bored:
     
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    Trump wasn't calling the virus a hoax, he was calling the democratic response to it a hoax. Akin to the Mueller inquisition and everything else we've gone through in 3 years.
     
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    From what I gather, the Dem's response was the more appropriate one. Calling that correct response a hoax is functionally the same thing.
     
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    Qoute what you keep claiming.
     
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    There is no "correct response" to this thing. We've just got to hope that in 2021 or whenever, that we'll get our civil liberties back or if this transformation into the Soviet Union is a permanent fixture.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi and The Fake News Media’s Hatred Of Trump Is Endangering Lives: The fake news media’s disdain for Trump has always led to reporting that is misleading, but during a pandemic it can also be deadly.

    Remember when Trump mentioning the promise of hydroxychloroquine as potential treatment was treated as him selling snake oil to the American people? Now the New York Times reports it helped victims in a study. Remember when a man died because he and his wife ate fish tank cleaner because Trump told them to? Now it turns out she’s a big donor to Democrats.

    When the President and Vice President began holding daily briefings to inform the American people of what was going on, the media spent most of its energy focused on minor rhetorical differences in how Trump and Drs. Anthony Faucci and Deborah Birx described what was going on instead of the vital information the briefings provided.

    When the American people saw through the pundits, the President’s approval numbers spiked. Then the Fake News Media made fabulous and fabricated claims that Trump’s briefings were to dangerous to be shown live because the President of the United States cannot be trusted.

    Recent polls show trust in the media entirely underwater. And still they can’t see the extent to which they have abused and lost the trust of the American people.
     
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    What's your point?
     
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    what alternative facts am I using? Not sure why you'd blame the Bush Admin for the failures of the Obama admin anyway....Obama's 69 page power point didn't replace the detailed policy created by the Bush admin...by the way...that's you just making things up.
     
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    Wait - you're saying that Trump KNEW about the threat - and didn't kick his administration into high gear to deal with it!
    Now that's leadership.

    Not.
     
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    So you are freely admitting he lied?

    Kewl... Nice step up for you...
     
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    He'll never make you happy Daniel, why bother.
     
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    Ha ha you didn't realize the speech was in Feb, after the task force and after the china lockout.
     
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    My point is that you can't keep reasonably defending Trump's words and deeds during this crisis. Deflecting blame towards previous administrations doesn't change current events.

    My point is that I could have easily followed the right wingers here and just lashed out with something like "What about the tens of thousands of Americans who died from the flu under the Bush administration's watch?"

    Instead, being a logical, reasonable, thinking human being, I chose to show that epidemics and pandemics happen regardless of which party holds the White House. It's how that White House responds to a crisis that is of great concern, and this administration is a failre in that regard, at the cost of American lives.
     
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    Do people die from pandemics all the time and it’s not any Presidents fault? Is that what you are saying? Gotcha
     
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    Oh I'm sure you had much better ideas. Always easy after the fact. Fact he did something about it. Fact your party criticized that he did something. Fact now your party, well the hyper partisans anyway, are criticizing for not doing it sooner. That my friend is what I call political lunacy.
     
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