The US is asking other countries including China for everything from hand sanitizer to ventilators

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    It's in the link you provided actually

     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    You haven't provided any proof that the US had any offer to buy test kits and that post isn't it.
     
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    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    No one said the World Health Organization made an offer to any country. The World Health Organization is not making offers or exclusions to specific countries, they are merely manufacturing and selling health kits to countries that need them, and there are no examples of them denying any country who has sought these test kits. It hasn't happened
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    You said they were available to the United States but have shown no proof whatsoever. It's simple. Show proof that the United States had the opportunity to buy some of the 1.5 million test kits that were available through the WHO made by the only company in the whole world. Still waiting..................
     
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  5. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    dude go read news in jan, China report it on late dec, US got first case in Jan 20. go compare SK vs US response on this. trump call it flu for two month, he said it will go away in few week in feb, bunch news on that go search for it.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/health/wuhan-coronavirus-timeline-fast-facts/index.html

     
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    Fake News

    Check the date on this tweet by WHO where they unquestioning passed off Chinese lies to the world.

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    World Health Organization (WHO)
    @WHO

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    Jan 14

    Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China

    WHO wouldn't declare COVID-19 to be a global pandemic for another nearly 2 months.

    The Chinese government knew the disease was spreading before their lie was passed off to the World by WHO the South China Morning Post confirmed.

    The pandemic originated in Wuhan & was initially covered up by Chinese authorities. University of Southampton study found there would have been a 95% REDUCTION in cases & less spread if Beijing intervened 3 wks sooner. https://t.co/YJRCxYH5Sa

    — Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) March 18, 2020

    The world is directly affected by China’s domestic governance – the suppression of doctors sounding the alarm, censoring of public health info online and now the expulsion of the journalists who are working to reveal what happened in the crucial early days of this pandemic. https://t.co/LEieejTcFH

    When President Trump's restricted travel from China on Jan. 31 there were only 230 deaths globally
    More Fake News:

    We hadn't confirmed a US case until FEBRUARY 15.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Old befuddled Joe Biden quickly attacking what he called Trump for restricting travel from China as "hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering" arguing that Trump "is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."

    Now 48 days later we have 277,161 infected and 7,392 dead. Clearly Trump was right to restrict travel and Blowhard Biden, whose family is plush with Chinese Cash, like WHO, was much too quick to believe Chinese lies.

    Please direct me to your posts calling Biden out for his shear idiocy in the face of this deadly epidemic.

    In March, the Old Socialist presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., conspicuously insisted at a Town hall that he wouldn't EVEN consider closing the U.S. border to prevent the spread of coronavirus, before condemning what he called the president's xenophobia.

    Please direct me to your posts calling out Sanders on his shear idiocy in the face of this deadly epidemic.

    A Jan. 31 article in The New York Times quoted epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm as saying that Trump's decision to restrict travel from China was "more of an emotional or political reaction."

    Please direct me to your posts calling out the Fake News NYT's for this shear idiocy in the face of this deadly epidemic.

    The Washington Post ran a story shameless promoting Chinese Propaganda spread by an official asking for "empathy" and slamming the White House for acting "in disregard of WHO [World Health Organization] recommendation against travel restrictions."

    Please direct me to your posts calling out the Fake News WAPO for this shear idiocy in the face of this deadly epidemic.

    A week before Trump's travel restrictions, Fake News Vox confidently declared that "The evidence on travel bans for diseases like coronavirus is clear: They don’t work." The article originally referred to the "Wuhan coronavirus" in its headline, before left-wing journalists and Democrats later decided, at the urging of Chinese Propaganda that this terminology was racist.

    Fake News Vox also tweeted on Jan. 31: "Is this going to be a deadly pandemic? No."

    Please direct me to your posts calling out the Fake News Vox for this shear idiocy in the face of this deadly epidemic.

    HOPKINS STUDY FOUND US MORE PREPARED THAN ANY COUNTRY TO HANDLE A PANDEMIC

    Trump has been so superb that even some prominent left-wing Democrats have come to the president's defense.

    "This is not time to bicker," California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom said Wednesday on CNN. “Let me just be candid with you. I’d be lying to you to say that Trump hasn’t been responsive to our needs. He has. And so, as a sort of an offer of objectivity, I have to acknowledge that publicly."​

    Correctly focused, the Democrat CA Gov has done one of the better jobs by the states controlling the outbreak.

    He has given you very good advice. You'd be wise to take it to heart.
     
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  7. TCassa89

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    It's literally in the link that you yourself provided...
     
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    It’s the Trump virus.
     
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    You keep saying that but it isn't. It's your way of avoiding the question.
     
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    You provided a source which stated "The U.S. did not use COVID-19 diagnostic tests produced by the World Health Organization in favor of producing its own"

    Do you deny it now?
     
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    Where does that say "Tests were offered to the Unites States but they chose to make their own"? Or maybe, "Tests were made available to the United States but they chose to make their own". It doesn't.
     
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    Once again..

     
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    There were only 1.4 million kits available so it's not like there was a stock pile for the whole world to dip into.
    No statement was made the the WHO made any offer to supply the Unites States with any kits. They made no such offer. No statement was made that any kits were available. They were manufactured by a very small company which consists of a guy and his wife.

    "When Olfert Landt heard about the novel coronavirus, he got busy.

    Founder of a small Berlin-based company, the ponytailed 54-year-old first raced to help German researchers come up with a diagnostic test and then spurred his company to produce and ship more than 1.4 million tests by the end of February for the World Health Organization.

    “My wife and I have been working 16 hours a day, seven days a week, ever since,” Landt said by phone about 1 a.m. Friday, Berlin time. “Our days are full.”"
    https://law.stanford.edu/press/how-u-s-coronavirus-testing-stalled/



    The left accused Trump of trying to buy a German company to supply the United States with a vaccine. They went nuts about how Trump and his nationalist "America First" philosophy was screwing Germany. Later it was discovered that the whole story was a partisan hack left wing lie. What is it? Is he supposed to be a nationalist and put America first or is he supposed to be a globalist? Whichever he does you can bet that the left will bitch about it. Hell, they manufacture **** to bitch about.


    ACCUSATION:

    The White House reportedly tried to poach a German company working on a coronavirus vaccine
    Trump reportedly wanted the vaccine to be “only for the United States.”
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...coronavirus-vaccine-germany-white-house-trump


    Germany confirms that Trump tried to buy firm working on coronavirus vaccine
    https://www.politico.eu/article/ger...d-to-buy-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine/


    TRUTH:

    German firm insists Trump didn’t try to buy coronavirus vaccine
    https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-germany-curevac/

    German vaccine company CureVac says no offers from Trump to buy exclusive vaccine access

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...o-offer-trump-coronavirus-vaccine/5062072002/
     
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    @LogNDog : The CDC didn't but the WHO kits because of QC standards. Birx said, “We don’t buy tests that haven’t been quality-controlled and they show us the data."
     
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    its called preliminary study for a reason, are you suggesting somehow scentist can figure everything about a complete NEW virus in a week or a month lol, its not a movie, clearly you're not an scentist or engineer, dont know how these things work. Even vaccine gonna take years to come out. Like many many news said, trump neglect the situation for almost 2 month, he just want to shift the blame to china so he dont have to take the responsibility lol, only a sucker get fool by him ;)
    ignorant is a bliss i guess, go check on when US got its 1st case. if its in Feb, it means doc here is dumb enough to misdiagnose as FLU. its also a fact we know the virus since late dec and early jan, trump didn't prepare it.
     
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    The US government is doing everything it can to get Americans necessary supplies. It even outbids and intercepts shipments meant for others.
    I think it’s actually a good thing. America first!
     
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    Can’t find alcohol these days, but if you are that paranoid you can buy cheapest vodka your local liquor store has and distill it.
    The only drag - this would stink up your home.
     
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    I take it your comment is sarcastic and not born out of ignorance of what Globalism is?
     
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    Some people call it that. Not any with a lick of sense, but some do.
     
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    China lied to the world. They knew full well that there was person to person transfer prior to Jan 15. You seem very eager to swall all the lies they want to dish.

    All the Chinese Propaganda that is fit to print
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    The anti-Trumpers perpetual failure to turn every challenge into a partisan sniping match won't save a single life!
     
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    Yeah, but there is still no proof that they were offered or even available to the US.
     
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    Birx went on to explain that without verifiable QC that they could have been the quality on the chinese tests that had a reported failure rate of 47% so "we" had no interest in them regardless of availability.
     
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    So you don't think Ivanka and others should have done business with China?

    Not sent their products to be built in China because it was so much cheaper?

    Never allow Americans to travel outside the US ?

    Never send troops to "protect our freedom" in other countries?

    Never allow anyone from another country to enter the US?



    Really?

    Can you explain how all that could've been done…????

    No, I didn't think so...DUH
     
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    The WHO has factories?
     
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    You're totally making up my worldview of globalism based upon basically nothing but your own imagination.

    My views on globalism, as it applies to the current crisis, is that we should, at the very least, reserve a certain level of the manufacturing capabilities of vital supplies (ventilators, pharmaceuticals, medical supplies, etc...) within the US, and under our control, so we can guarantee a prudent level of reliable self sufficiency.

    Can you explain how all that couldn't, or shouldn't, have been done?
     
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