Aircraft carrier captain removed from duty after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...jtc5qDQK40jilvElCKCO7gScv8njVirLg1gy8DeMRG1Mw

    This is wrong. These Sailors need better than this. The Captain did the right thing, someone leaked and he becomes the scapegoat. I imagine that no-one gets to command a massive weapon like that Carrier without having very serious and credible credentials. Yet, he is sacrificed at what altar? That of Humpty Trumpty Ego. Jayzuz.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess in your zeal to falsely proclaim 'orange man bad' you missed the part where this Captain ignored security protocols. Bravo!
     
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    Where did he do that?
     
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    Inside their fevered heads, most likely.
    trump probably had him fired for not being ‘appreciative’ enough.
     
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    It was clumsy to copy the letter to multiple people, making a leak likely. A single copy to his boss would have sufficed.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read your own article, it's all there. Including the fact Trump took no part in this...
     
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    Sure, the Commander in Chief of the entire US Military would never get involved in sacking one of his subordinates, especially one having command of a US Carrier with a massive military capacity. That's not Humpty Trumpy's job. So unfair. I blame those leftards. You?
     
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    lol.... The captain of a multi billion aircraft carrier is sacked, without any input of the president?
    Who are you kidding here?

    I mean. We're all aware that Donald is a freaking yellow backed draft dodger.
    But he still made it as commander in chief.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would Trump be involved? This was can internal matter. You folks just look for reasons to blame Trump even when it's clear he played no part. There's quite a few steps in the chain of command between a captain and Trump...
     
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    The captain did the wrong thing. He went around the chain of command and embarrassed the Navy by publicizing his letter to the SECDEF. He knew better than to do this and should not be surprised by the backlash. If help wasn't coming fast enough, he should have picked up the phone and worked it out with whomever is sending the help. This isn't about his fitness to command a carrier. It is about these actions.
     
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    I blame the Russians.
     
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    This sounds like Chinese propaganda to me
     
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    Sounds like more Chinese propaganda.
     
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    tough call, but the captain screwed up.
     
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    Did you actually not read your own link??

    “I have no doubt in my mind that Capt. Crozier did what he thought was in the best interest of the safety and well being of his crew. Unfortunately it did the opposite,” Modly added, saying it panicked families of sailors on board and gave information about the ship’s capabilities to America’s adversaries. “In my judgment, relieving him of command was in the best interest of the United States Navy and the nation in this time when the nation needs the Navy to be strong and confident in the face of adversity.”
     
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    You wanna take bets that the captain is a Democrat?
     
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    Disclosing the military readiness of his command. There is already a thread on this.
     
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    Disclosing the military readiness through a non-secured communications is a breach of security.
     
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    I think the captain knew this. He was told by Democrats to do this, who were told by US media, who take their orders from China to do this to hurt trump.
     
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    Someone leaked? I dunno for sure but I would think the captain of a multibillion-dollar nuclear aircraft carrier has the means to deliver secure communications to his command.

    Would not you think so?
     
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    Maybe the captain did the right thing (that doesn't matter). He lives and dies by the UCMJ. Surely he fully expected that he would lawfully pay the price for going outside of the chain of command.

    He's beyond thirty years service, has a splendid pension secured, and won't lose much. I'm sure that figured into his calculations.

    Nothing burger. Go Navy!
     
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    I agree there would be and Trump would never be involved in the removal of the Captain of an MTB, but this bloke was the Captain of one of the USA's massive aircraft carriers.
     
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    Sounds like you're babbling.
     
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    Sorry, you are wrong. It has nothing to do with the cost of the carrier or size of command. It's about where it falls in the chain of command, and this was handled by the Navy and approved by DOD without getting to Trump...
     
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    I disagree. Trump is CIC.
     

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