Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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  1. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    This is scary too. I wonder how all this is going to work out.
     
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    Is there a global site like IMHE that is predicting peak dates? So far, the IHME estimates have been pretty spot on.
     
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    So your point is that in the UK the healthcare system is deficient ???
     
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    You are incapable of reading. Bye troll!
     
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    And that is what they are doing in Italy. That data can save lives.
     
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    You are not saving lives by blaming the underlying conditions.

    You want to save lives by noting that this virus is more likely to kill if you have one of those underlying conditions? That's fine.
     
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    In the US everything is combined. In the UK it is not. So what is your point ???
     
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    Sure you are. The data informs those most at risk from dying from their serious conditions if infected by Corona. Healthy persons are “not” seriously affected
     
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    Isn't that the superposition/cat stuff some were talking about the other day? :)
     
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    13 states in the USA have now reported at least 100 (or considerably more) COVID-19 deaths.

    5 from the NE: NY, NJ, CT, MA, PA
    3 from the Midwest: MI, IN, IL
    3 from the South: GA, FL, LA
    2 from the West: CA, WA
     
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    Iran is no longer breaking the specific numbers per province, but I have a lot of family members who live in Isfahan and things look to have become somewhat stable. According to the University of Isfahan Medical Center's latest statement yesterday, there were 110 new Coronavirus patients hospitalized in Isfahan province yesterday, while 84 were released from hospital after recovering. The overall death rate in the city and province is said to be increasing at a stable rate (flat).
     
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    It is sad when a statement like that is considered good news, but I'll take it.
     
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    I knew there was a reason why I like you!! There are more than just beautiful roses in the city. There used to be a wonderful chocolate factory in Isfahan....

    And my very best thoughts to your family members. Tikkun Olam, Bro, tikkun olam.
     
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    One takes what one can get.
     
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    The conversation actually made me realize we might be closer to controlling the spread of the virus than I had thought before: Just reclassify all the dead as having died from something other than Covid-19 and, presto, the death rate will come climbing down quickly:)
    Anyway, I usually try to avoid sarcasm and typically try to address all points I have encountered on their merit. But sometimes it gets frustrating when I see the main driver in the argument is, ultimately, a desire to 'prove' some earlier point about the 'virus being no big deal, just like the flu', including from those who had been quite on board (for much longer than warranted by any facts) with the early assessments by a famous politician (who I won't name) that the numbers affected by the virus would 'soon be down to zero'.
     
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    I thought their hospitals were running close to capacity before the virus. If he uses ventilators and other supplies from one or more hospitals to save Coronavirus patients, then isn't he leaving all non-Coronavirus hospitals without supplies they may need? Sounds like stealing from Peter to pay Paul.
     
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    Cuomo briefing just started.

     
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    The point is to save lives by providing details on the pre existing conditions which make Corona or any virus infection dangerous. Healthy individuals do not have much to fear from Corona. Why would anyone be opposed to that ??

    Ah, I see - Trump haters do not want this information out there.

    BTW, why do you think the Italians are reclassifying the “Corona” deaths in their country which has resulted in 88% of those tragic deaths being attributed to the serious pre conditions ??? Do you think they are trying to save lives or minimize the Corona virus danger ??
     
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    Here is where your logic goes wrong.

    The people who "do not face much risk from this virus" both a) face significant risk from this virus and b) are perfectly capable of spreading the virus to those who face even greater amounts of significant risk from this virus.

    How do you expect behavior to change if you champion the message of "if you are currently healthy, then you are unlikely to die from this virus?" Those people are more likely to act normal and thus risk spreading the virus faster to the people who are doing more to isolate themselves.

    Also, what the actual **** does being a "trump hater" have to do with this?
     
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    I’m “championing” data disclosure which clearly identifies those most at risk.
     
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    As long as you aren't also championing reclassifying Covid-19 deaths and ill patients as dying from things like diabetes instead, that is fine. I am all for 'data disclosure' and believe there is plenty of data on all sorts of preconditions that increase your risks of dying from the virus. But one thing you have repeated (besides also seemingly advocating reclassifying deaths of even people whose conditions weren't life threatening) that I find misleading is the notion that the virus doesn't present a serious risk to otherwise healthy people. That is false.
     
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    I don't think that Italy has reclassified 88% of their coronavirus deaths. I think they are saying that 88% of their coronavirus deaths had underlying conditions. I believe they are still continuing to count all coronavirus cases in their death totals, regardless whether tor not he patients had preexisting conditions.
     
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    26 hours ago, I posted that we had crossed the 50,000 mark in deaths. Just 1 day and 2 hours ago.

    As of this moment, 4 hours before my day ends, were are now at 58,111 deaths and may actually surpass the 60,000 mark today.

    2020-04-003 COVID-19 58110 dead.png

    Also, yesterday we broke the 1 million mark and are now less than 20,000 away from the 1.1 million mark already.
     
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    In Italy 88% of the deaths occurred in people with serious pre conditions. That’s important information which I don’t believe is out there.

    I’m healthy, take precautions, and am not worried about the virus whether infected or not. The risk is very low.
     

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