After mocking Trump for promoting hydroxychloroquine, journalists acknowledge it might treat coronav

Nope same subject, the fool needs to stick with what he really knows, which just about nothing.

 

Let's approach this with some logic. We have two articles, this one in the thread published by Fox News 19 hours ago, and we have a news story published by CNBC 2 hours ago. Fox News article claims that journalists are now acknowledging that this drug 'might' treat coronavirus. The CNBC article from two hours ago quotes Dr. Fauci who warned Americans not to assume that this drug is anything more than 'anecdotal', and those were his exact words at one of Trump's press conferences. Who should we be listening to, Fox News or Dr. Fauci?

Coronavirus: Dr. Anthony Fauci warns Americans shouldn’t assume hydroxychloroquine is a ‘knockout drug’
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/cor...me-hydroxychloroquine-is-a-knockout-drug.html

 

Trump's a failure. he should have recommended chloroquine weeks earlier than he did. He was just too slow to act. He's a do-nothing president

Sort of like that?

 

So a president should not point to a legitimate avenue of hope, for the express purpose of trying to create a semblance of hope among the populace during a disaster? Is he not supposed to attempt to calm the markets?

The left's position on this is truly bizarre. The only rational explanation?.....a severe case of TDS.

 

I missed when and where your president said this was a knockout drug that would cure the Wuhan virus. Would you provide me with a link? It would have been useful ammunition in any one of the ten threads running this garbage.

 

When did I ever make a claim he said that? Incidentally, he's not 'my' president, never was. I have never, in all the years he's in office have referred to him as 'President'.

 

Legitimate avenue of hope? WTF is that? Fairytale land for ignorant fools to hold on to? To those who believe in a religion should they be told God will help? Hell no. People need to be told what's real, period. Not sold snake oil. Unless and until proven to be effective all they need to be told is that experts are working around the clock to find vaccines, cures or treatments and that further information will be released when available, if they're to be told anything by a President. Other than that, the EXPERTS need to do the talking not a half-wit pathological liar whose one and only objective is himself.

 

I am going to post what I said earlier on the subject because it addresses your premise head on...





I work in the medical arena. I recently sat in on a nationwide internet conference amongst doctors belonging to a particular trade group that I will opt to not identify. The speaker was the Chief of Staff at a New York City hospital. Their protocol for every hospitalized patient is currently Hyrodychloroquine, Azithromycin, Zinc, and massive doses of intravenous vitamin C. I believe that she said this is the protocol at all New York Hospitals.

None of this decision has ANYTHING to do with anything that Trump has said. It is a medical decision currently in widespread use around the globe, and it most certainly is NOT a crackpot idea. Unless and until something better comes along, it is currently the best and most promising option that medicine has to offer. If your loved one were in a hospital literally fighting for their life, you TOO would want them to try that drug combination, and if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.

You and others need to step back from your Trump hatred for one second and take an objective look at reality. Trump having mentioned this drug has literally NOTHING to do with the medical establishment's current use of that drug combination. Maybe it will turn out that it works wonders, and maybe it will not. The reality is however that it is currently the most promising treatment with widespread availability. None of its use or lack thereof is relevant to Trump one way or the other. This is solely the domain of doctors and their decision making protocol.





....So yes.... A LEGITIMATE AVENUE OF HOPE. Enough hope that New York city hospitals ( and many other states) are giving it to EVERY hospitalized patient. It is currently the most promising treatment that is currently widely available that medicine has to offer at this specific moment in time. It is currently in widespread use worldwide.

I am sorry if this upsets you. Your position is bizarre. If your loved one were struggling for their life in a hospital, you too would want them to have this treatement as well. Stop lying to yourself, because deep down you know that is exactly what you would want for your loved one. It is a benign enough drug that the downside is almost nothing, and dont give me the whole QT prolongation (heart rythm) nonsense, because that is a concern for someone on the drug for life, not for 10 or 12 days while someone is literally struggling for their very life. If someone has a 50% chance of dying while on a ventilator, the absolute LAST THING that a doctor is concerned about is a 1% chance of a heart rythm disturbance that may or may not cause a tangible problem; especially considering that the 1% chance is measured for someone taking the drug for life as opposed to for a few days. For all intents and purposes, it is about as benign of a drug as exists.

 

Trump should have started the studies on the chloroquine cocktail a year ago.

 

1. Who said you did?
2. If you live in this country, Donald J. Trump is your president. You can resist, stamp your feet, go out and scream at the sky, and hold your breath until you turn blue but you cannot alter that fact.

 

No, I can do whatever I choose to do. He's a bastard, nothing but a racketeer that fools millions of idiots because he's a reality TV star and 'a great businessman'. I was going to add 'lol' but nothing about this tragedy at the hands of this monster is even remotely funny.

 

What the hell is wrong with you!??

There is a good study that will yield great data, and possibly fast track a solution if the results pare positive. How the **** could you even remotely have issue with the question.

It’s been roughly a week. We should have data and results now or very soon. I was curious if anybody has seen any news on that study.

So you haven’t seen any data yet? Should be soon. Cross your fingers for some good news.

 

So your problem is with the person relaying the information, not about the truth of the subject. Why don't you just type that you hate Trump in large letters so the rest of us know from the get go, it would save time.

 

Wow. I am stunned and amazed this is still going on. My sympathies to all in this boat.
The world is being infected by a virus from China and we are getting pushback from people that continue to rail, rant and resist any positive news concerning the potential for mitigation or even a cure for the Wuhan virus because they hate their president.
PF rules prohibit me from stating my true feelings but suffice to say, I hope they get well soon as like it or not, we are all in this together.

 

When Dr. Fauci or someone with experience in epidemiological studies tells me that this drug is very promising and may only reduce the intensity of the virus I will jump up and down for joy and celebrate with a beer. But when we're continuously bombarded every single day from both sides with conflicting and opposing arguments either pro or con, we get frustrated and we begin to feel we're being sold a bunch of goods by know-nothings.

 

This one should NOT be a political tug of war. It may work and it may not.

Consider

“There is definitely the balance between using unproven therapy and trying to prevent death,” he wrote me. “My biggest fear is the public will think there is an effective treatment and abandon the physical distancing that is needed to control this epidemic. We are using (hydroxychloroquine and a related drug called chloroquine) with reluctance because they may be ineffective or harmful and with the hope that they may work.

“The bottom line is good quality data is desperately needed and poor quality studies or data should not be needlessly hyped.”

Indeed, this may be the medical quagmire of our time.

In the coming weeks, countless people will become infected with a severe case of Covid-19. For some, hydroxochloroquine may be their only hope.

Even so, let’s not work ourselves into a different kind of fever over a medicine that, for the moment, lacks sufficient evidence.

 

What a bunch of nonsense. You didn't understand one single thing I posted.

 

LOL....What a crock. You are fooling absolutely NO ONE. I understand this topic backwards and forwards as it has been my career for the last 20 or so years,and you....well you have cut and pasted an article that you came across most likely on some left wing Trump hating blog, and then you threw in some run of the mill Trump hatred for good measure. That is literally the sum total of your contribution to this conversation, and now you honestly think that I do not understand what you have said? Lol......cmon.

If you think that you have presented yourself well, then so be it. I am pretty sure that my words run circles around your obviously limited/nonexistent understanding of the subject. I am more than happy to let the reader decide for themselves however.

 

It is neither as "legitimate avenue of hope" NOR a fairy tale.

Cmon folks

Get real. It might work...and that's great if it does

Or it might not...and that would be hugely disappointing. Hopefully people aren't harmed by it and the people who currently need it for lupus and various other things can still get it.

Pardon me for being the voice of reason here.

Carry on with the political food fight

 

he also doesn't sound to be a fan of publicly announcing drugs which could save lives either.

 

That is some oxymoron, as if Trump = truth. I guess there is that for Trump grovelers. All I am interested in is TRUTH and the last thing I'm interested in is Trump = endless pathological liar. Why on earth would anyone trust anything this liar says? That is exactly why I said the EXPERTS need to do the talking not this pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

Maybe then you should listen to Dr. Fauci https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/22/anthony-fauci-no-clash-trump-malaria-drug-coronavi/

“I think there’s this issue of trying to separate the two of us. There isn’t fundamentally a difference there,” Dr. Fauci

“I’m not disagreeing with the fact, anecdotally, they might work,” Dr. Fauci told CBS.

The problem is so many on the left are trying to undercut the work being done because of their anti-Trump bias. IT's sad really

 

And therein lies the issue. Nothing Trump says is trustworthy and at least half or more Americans don't believe a word he says. All he's ever done is lie and mislead so what we don't need is for him to try to explain anything that's completely beyond his comprehension. What we do need is for him to let the experts do the talking.

 

I have a bulletin that I hope you are capable of understanding. You will never find any doctor that will tell you there is a cure for any disease. Let me repeat that for you and underline it for emphasis, you will never find any doctor that will tell you there is a cure for any disease.
As for your president causing turmoil in some lives, turn off all media and you may find joy in the little things in life.

 

And there you have, it was political. Did you even read the article? Obviously not, yet you claim:

Who are you fooling? Yourself? If you were a legitimate academic, you would have read the article and researched it. This is where that comes from, from the article itself right at the beginning:

Katherine Seley-Radtke, Professor of Chemistry and Biochemistry and President-Elect of the International Society for Antiviral Research, University of Maryland, Baltimore County