Population density increases vulnerability to infection

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Just another of the many things that big city toffs got wrong, and are only just now realising (they're very slow, bless 'em - even though they're educated). But it's okay .. we all need a good laugh right now :)
     
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    Yes. Cities are a nightmare. Powder kegs, no matter how you look at it.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just wait. They'll be outraging over our 'rural priveledge' and demanding we be exposed to the infected. For social justice and equality.

    You know its coming.
     
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    That's easy, when you don't live in a city. You don't even have to try.
     
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    They're already complaining here. Some of these city toffs own second properties in the country, and are now probably going to be prevented from using them to ride out the lockdown. They're NOT happy.

    And the rural privilege thing is already here. I've seen opinion pieces condemning it. Apparently it's now considered very poor form to admit that you have open space around you. You must pretend you're indoors 24/7 in sympathy with the city folk who until 2 weeks ago, thought their undersized and massively overpriced apartments were the ultimate lifestyle.
     
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    I wouldn't agree with a national cap on population density. People should have the right to take the risk if they want to. Seems painfully obvious that when they live packed together like rats, it isn't healthy. I think another problem in this situation is that big city folks seem to be absolutely addicted to "take-out." I think hardly any know how to cook. Maybe the carry out restaurants and coffee shops needed to be closed too?
     
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    Friends of mine in high medical places are saying this is a dress rehearsal for much worse viruses. We get it right now, or look forward to being wiped out by some new Ebola kind of thing.
     
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    The problem with city folk is they can't do ANYTHING for themselves. They're completely reliant on massive infrastructure, for every breath they take. Remove their power and water and they'd be ****ed within 24hrs. Having said that, I'm with you in that we should leave them to it. Maybe the better option is to metaphorically wall them in. Make leaving the city subject to some sort of visa system. This would apply to anyone voluntarily purchasing or renting property within city limits.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    But not all areas and countries. Seems to be a big problem in the US. The boffins are suggesting that too many just don't get it, thinking that the 6 feet rule and washing their hands is all they need to do.
     
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    You mean like a check box that says- 'by opting to live in these conditions, you accept the risk of being walled off and left to die in the event of an uncontrollable viral pandemic'?
     
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    One can live in the country on the coasts as well. The idea is to get away from the cities. I remember when I lived in a 12th floor apartment in the near north side of Chicago. While a nice neighborhood, it was not a great place to live. I lived in suburbs for a while and remember the congestion and train rides to work. The congested walk from the train station to the office reminded me of the lines of people in the 1984 movie.

    I finally live where I belong. I think the idea is to avoid working in a city. My lifestyle works because I have been self employed for the past 22 years. I have the luxury of living anywhere I want as long as there are postal and UPS services available. I buy most everything except food on the internet. I haven't been inside a shopping mall for a decade or so. If I want to visit a city, I can drive to one. There are 4 or 5 of them within 100 miles.
     
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    Nah....still prefer the rural area where I live in New England
     
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    this sums it up nicely for me. especially the end.
     
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    I pointed that out as well in another thread. in my little corner its night and day comparison to my visits to NY. CHI, etc.

    we can do a 3 mile walk and maybe 6 cars will go by total, might see a few bikers. walkers, dog people, dont even have to extend much effort.

    I can do a drive by at walgreens (1 mile) and if there more than a couple cars I just go back later.

    grocery store is still a bit of a bottleneck but most of us are cutting back there too, were already well stocked by now, my pantry is jammed.
     
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    I don't think population density, however one defines it, will not do that much from a theoretical perspective because you are talking about changing the face of society for a 1% (or less) occurrence.

    Humans are social creatures. You cannot remove that element from society and think you still have civilization.
     
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    We're changing the face of our society right now. Millions not working and getting bailout checks that will inflate our currency, restricted travel and social interaction... could be avoided if the infection rate were lower. Pop density reduction could be a method to eliminate the need for these restrictions in the future.
     
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    I'm speaking of future pandemics, of course. Too late now, since no one saw this coming (expect, you know .. the smart people). New York is a very good example of why something like that is so important.

    They used to wall cities in, back in the day. Worked very well at keeping contagion out OR in.
     
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    Cities are actually far less social than small communities.
     
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    You have to go looking for to get AIDS. Not a really good comparison. Though I don't really think outlawing cities us the way to go...
     
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    Outlawing wouldn't be necessary .. just some kind of liability clause to renting or purchasing within city limits. IOW - you accept that you will be 'locked in' in the event of a pandemic, and may have limited medical help under those conditions. Would be difficult to police in the case of rentals, so perhaps outlawing renting in cities might be necessary. Owner-occupiers only.
     
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    He did.
     
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    Let alone forced "refugees," illegals and increased mandatory low income housing. Just imagine the property and sales tax hikes!

    Of course they will bring their progressive political views with them instead of learning that those don't work. The progressive mind is utterly incapable of learning, flexibility or self-reflection, mired utterly in narcissism if not out and out solipsism.

    SORRY WE ARE FULL! ****!
     
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    Libs just got done telling us that living in the burbs is a sign of white privilege and tried to outlaw single family homes.
     
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    We'll have to wait and see. I hope there are honest numbers (not politicized numbers) for whoever is left standing when this is over.
     
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