How Trump failed the biggest test of his life

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  1. dairyair

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    We get it already.
    R's and tRUMP never assume responsibility.
     
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    For what? For what was he supposed to assume responsibility that he has not?
     
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    Then you are in favor of slave wages, or no wages, for educators. Nothing is free.
     
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    You think a virus doesn’t cross state lines ? Unbelievable !
     
  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HOW AMERICA IS POLITICALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL

    It happens often in second-rate democracies where a specific group feels it must dominate the political process.

    A bit of recent American history:
    *Obama was handed on a platter the SubPrime Mess in 2008 (when he took office) AND the resulting Great Recession (from a Replicant Administration). Unemployment was skyrocketing!
    *He passed the ARRA spending-bill and spiked the Unemployment Skyrocket at 10% in 2009, with a Democrat Congress.
    *Having done so, we, the sheeple, thanked him by voting the HofR in control of the Replicants that same year (2009). (HIS economy was not putting Americans back to work quick enough in what had become known as the Great Recession.
    *That august body controlled by witless Replicants proceeded in 2009 refused all further stimulus-spending that was absolutely needed to spark new jobs in hopes maintaining high employment to defeat Obama in 2011 elections.
    *So, the economy was stagnant for the next four years - it created jobs only to replace those lost
    *See the Bureau of Labor Statistics chart of the Employment-to-population Ratio here and note how it stagnated from November 2009 to November 2013. Four long years!
    *And why did the Replicants refuse stimulus-spending (which had already caused a plummeting unemployment rate)?
    *Because from 2009 to the next presidential elections 2011, they were trying to sink Obama's reputation to ruin his presidency.
    *But that trick didn't work did it? He got reelected!
    *Nonetheless, who suffered most? The Replicant Party or those fellow Americans who could not find a decent job in the Great Recession from 2010 to 2014 ...
    *THAT'S HOW POLITICS FUNCTION IN AMERICA ...

    And it aint gonna change any time soon ...
     
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  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finland tried it for a year, and then dumped the program. But it DID put people back to work, and they are still working!

    But, that's Finland.

    I quoted that figure to show that idiocy of the present cost-rate at $14,000 a year - and that is at "state-schools".

    Why is it that state-schools in America must put up that economic-barrier to a higher education. Which is why Bernie suggested the idea of Federal-funding of Post-secondary Education to Hillary who made it an election-promise!

    And that is how Hillary won the election because her promise brought out the Democrat Vote amongst America's youths. They are sick-'n-tired of the way America is being run ... !
     
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    Didn't bring them out enough, Trump still won the Electoral College. Bill Maher was clear on this about 2/3 weeks ago. We can't rely on the young vote because they just don't vote that often.
     
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    I think educators should get very good wages paid by the government and taken out of the defense budget. There's more than enough there to pay for that.
     
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    There is so much WRONG with the American electoral-system that no other nation on earth has copied it. And, all the European countries had that possibility as they were reconstructing after WW2. Not one adopted the asininity of an Electoral College. NOT ONE!

    Neither does any have Gerrymandering - with the sole exception of the the "newest" contingent of ex-Communist countries some of which are adopting a version. These countries are in for a reckoning with Brussels.

    The guys that were elected in some of them (Poland jumps to mind) haven't the slightest notion of how the plurality of a real-democracy functions ...
     
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    Yes they are. They are screaming for US military intervention in dispersing medcail equipment, not Jared Kushner.
     
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    The Fed is directly responsible for any threat , foreign or domestic in one state that directly affects evryother state.....that’s why we have a federally controlled flight system and closed it down. The transmission of deadly diseases between states is a primary obligation of the federal government. I’ve never met anyone who is so uninformed as to not understand that....till now.
    Unbelievable......so, we should just shut down the CDC ?
    The Mission of the CDC is on line for anyone who doesn’t understand anything about federal government responsibilities.
    I read it. I’m not going to make stupid statements that prove that I have not.
     
  12. LafayetteBis

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    Wrong again!

    They DO assume responsibility. Whenever it suits well their profit-motives. All else is unimportant.

    As if making a good bit of money is not as relevant as making ONE HELLUVA LOTTA MONEY! Donny lowers upper-income taxes and YOU-PLURAL send those
    personal tax-savings to his reelection campaign! Bingo! Big Money in the till!

    And, of course, that bundle of money that Replicant Magnates give to Donny because he lowered their upper-income tax-rate helps him win his next election.

    Just who do you think you-plural are fooling? The manipulations to favor upper-income families are soooo patently evident ...
     
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    Prove it!

    Let's see in print the proof of what you write here ...
     
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    There are some states that have great programs that could be initiated nationally.
    Instead of giving tuition money up front, they reimburse tuition fees at the end of each year after reaching a designated GPA . Students then only have to stay one year ahead in tuition fees which ultimately gets reimbursed at the end of their college years.

    Some states attach it to remaining employed within the state for a designated time, especially in areas the state needs a particular service. The military offers similar programs. They are already out there on a small scale and it’s “constitutional”

    It can easily be initiate by the feds nation wide to expand education and medical and science degrees....none of which the gop believes in. So, we’re on our own to vote them out of office.
     
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    And, as individual entitites, they are having to pay inflated rates for supplies. One centralized customer makes the cost go down. Kinda like pharmaceutical drugs8)
     
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    Funny, the supplies from the gov. Stock pile was already paid for by the tax payers in all the states. Now, according to the Trump administration, they have to bid for supplies on the open market, supplies they already paid for. Worse yet, the New York’s and California’s are donor states. They pay more in federal taxes then they get back in federal aid. When it comes time for a national pandemic disaster, they get fked. IMO, It’s like Trump is “killing” blue state voters.
     
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    No you don't. You want education to be free.
    Nothing is free. I know that you know this.
     
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    The difference is, you want your services for free without paying taxes. Yes, education from kindergarten to HS mostly is public and payed by taxes. I guess the gop answer is home schooling for everyone then ?
     
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    Nothing is free, that is true.

    But many things can and should be paid for by all of us over time through the government. Infrastructure is one of these and education up to and through college is as much a part of our infrastructure as roads and sewers. We need to invest in our people, that always gives a premium rate of return.
     
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    Yes, well, thankfully this is no war by any figment of your imagination. It is a disease, and fully professional National Healthcare Services are administering to those stricken by the COV-19 virus here in Europe.*

    And the military services are being employed simply to move supplies. The NHS is doing a tirelessly superb-job in all the countries in which it exists. (Which is all of the EU.)

    *Of course, we are still waiting for the Atomic-Bomb that will neutralize the disease entirely. But that is going to take a while.

    Moreover, let's get one thing VERY straight. This is just the beginning of the war against such beasts at SARS and Covad-19. There will be others. You can be sure.

    Which is all the more reason for Uncle Sam to envisage finally a National Healthcare Service, which is far more important than the Toys-for-Boys in the DoD ...
     
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    Yes, all government services are not for free. Yes, again, we sustain them by means of national taxation.

    The problem is that what should be for "free" is not "free" at all. Far more important than the DoD is a National Healthcare Service (as proposed by Obama and torpedoed by the Replicants. Along with a free Tertiary Education, which they would likely sink as well.

    And many such services that are key to the nation's well-being are unavailable because of the backward-recalcitrance of the Replicant Party ...
     
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    Blah-blah-blah...
     
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    It's just good common-sense that both the Health of the nation as well as the Education of its people should be guaranteed by national-services. There is no OBVIOUS current necessity for the wholly extravagant expenditures on the DoD.

    It is impossible to imagine why the US has never understood the underlying reason. Both services are key to the basic well-being of the US.

    The EU saw those universal truths a long, long time ago. Don't know why the US remains blind to them.

    Moreover, for one's edification in the matter: FOUR WAYS THE PENTAGON IS WASTING YOUR TAX DOLLAR - excerpt:
    Ho hum, so what else is new ... ?

    PS: Further to the above and about the site from which it comes, here:
     
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