Chicago gun deaths down slightly over last year but shootings up

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  1. Levant

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    Wuhan Virus has not lowered overall death rate in Chicago

    Gun deaths down to 24 for March 2020 compared to 35 for March 2019 but shootings and shooting victims are up 6% and 5%, respectively.

    Overall deaths up to 412 this March compared to 279 last March with only 11 deaths attributed to Wuhan Virus. I wonder how many deaths are from Wuhan Virus that are not recognized or attributed as being from it.
     
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    More likely the opposite. Any with the virus that dies is considered a virus related death regardless of actual cause. A study in Italy found the actual virus kills about 3% of those who die, the other deaths are from the pre-existing conditions...
     
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    You'd think that eventually Chicago would run out of bullets or people.
     
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    I think the point of this thread is that "aim" is down :machinegun:
     
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    If the virus causes the pre-existing conditions to become fatal when they would have not otherwise been so would that still attributable to the virus?
     
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    That's hard to say judging by the age and conditions of the at risk elderly...
     
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    Democrats say: Trump's fault!

    But but they've been killing themselves long before Trump became POTUS.

    Democrats say: Nope. Trumps fault.

    On a reality note: Even when this country had a black POTUS named Obama, they still couldn't get their sh@t together.
     
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    Americans do seem to be unable to successfully implement anything from a simple website to healthcare reform to maintaining a medical stockpile to a massive stimulus package. It is an issue that transcends party.
     
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    I think the point is that comorbidity clouds the actual cause of death. The death has to be attributed to all of it. If a hemophiliac falls off a ladder and sustains a cut that would not normally be life threatening, would their death be from the fall, the cut, or the hemophilia?
     
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    No idea, I am about as far from a doctor as possible. That was kind of my question. If the person didn’t fall they wouldn’t have died — but the same is also potentially true if they were not a hemophiliac.
     
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    Clearly he threw himself off the ladder because Trump told him it was OK.
     
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    Or that the virus makes you more bulletproof.
     
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    Or maybe hospitals are doing a better job.
     
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    That is not large enough sample to be statistically significant.
     
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    Yeah but that leads to false conclusions, like we need to outlaw ladders because they lead to bleeding to death.
     
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    On the bright side at least when thugs shoot each other they are practicing good social distancing. If this was some hellhole like London the poor blokes would risk spreading the virus because they have to stab each other...
     
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    Homicide rates have been on a 25 year decline. Over half of gun related deaths in this country are suicide. Gun grabbers have nothing to stand on.
     
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