"430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced"

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OH FFS. You cannot be serious. ?

    it is a FAT that Trump created a travel ban, only it wasn't a "travel" ban, it was a ban on Chinese people traveling. Apparently both you and Donald think that the virus can only be passed by the brown people, not the white ones ?

    You're actually defending what has to be the not only the biggest blunder in all of this pandemic, but something that will actually cost american lives ! Also something that unquestionably made this pandemic worse. Thats not really up for debate.

    But don't worry, Jared is taking care of things now. Everyone can now breath a sigh of relief that the guy who thought that the entire thousand years of war between the Palestinians and the Israelis was just about jobs, is on the job to save america from the pandemic.
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Select travel was banned, Chinese citizens, and travel is still occurring today, and Trump listened to the medical people weeks after they recommended the action
     
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    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    FDA has approved it for study on corona patients and Drs can prescribe. Dr Fauci point blank said he would prescribe it, America has ordered 33 million pills of this drug. Have you seen one trial that hasn't been positive? NY is giving it out now as well so I think it's probably at minimum is helping. We'll see but it appears promising just as Trump and the doctors have said.
     
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    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Lol one of the biggest criticizers of the ban, how cute to be armchair qb after the fact.
     
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    Yeah, presidents have had to deal with ungrateful governors and a hostile press before. They've all managed to rise to the occasion.

    And I notice you didn't bring up Trump talking about ratings. How can you defend that? WTF, right? Would you have been OK with Obama talking about his book sales during the Ebola crisis? No, you wouldn't have. And Americans weren't dying.

    If Trump keeps it up, he's signing his political death warrant. We already know now we're going to lose a lot of people from this, and the economy is going to get hammered. What, then, does Trump have to run on?

    If Trump's argument is going to be "it could have been so much worse", A) that's a terrible election argument and B) he'll need all the good will he can get. Acting like a narcissist literally while people are dying and being put on ventilators doesn't apparently bother the koolaid drinkers. But I guarantee you independents won't like it.
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah. We know the story with you libs. He’s a racist xenophobe if he bans people but didn’t do enough if he didn’t ban enough people before WHO determined the severity of the virus. And of course, Democrats telling people to go out and have fun when Trump was supposed to ban everyone, doesn’t mean anything. :)

    You’re trolling us. I get it.
     
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    The really big one was when he created panic with the Europe ban and people came storming back to the country.
    You can see that one in the hot spot maps. Every major East Coast airport.
     
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    Have you seen how many times the left brings up Trump in threads about Biden? I know, that's different.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's beyond trolling. They're spreading Chinese propaganda and they seem to enjoy it.
     
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    He restricted travel from European hotspots as well. Feel silly at all?
     
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    No. We were not.
     
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    Yeah, sorry to ruin your Trump bashing, and I don't care about the 'whataboutism' meme.

    Care to REEE over the fact that Pelosi and Cuomo were encouraging people to do the opposite of social distancing, or fact that Biden wouldn't have restricted travel? How about Democrats trying to hold the stimulus hostage unless their insane demands were met which had nothing to do with the coronavirus?

    But... but... but TRUMP though...
     
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    I never criticized the "ban". I pointed out that it wasn't a travel ban, it was a ban on chinese people. And somehow the Trump and his entries administration thought that banning the brown ones, and not the white ones was somehow going to contain the virus. You cant make that crap up with a TEAM of writers.

    Trump said that he was "banning travel from China" which was a lie. Plain and simple.....
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ummmm, no....he banned their citizens from traveling here, not US citizens traveling from there. Thats not a trivial distinction.....but you knew that.

    So you can explain how the virus couldn't travel in a US citizens body, but could in a foreign nationals body ?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    So inspite of the fact that he restricted travel from EUROPE as well, you're still determined to play the race card. That's irrational.
     
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    Except I didn't say what about anything. I just found it good that Trump went through with the ban on China to protect American citizens in spite of the pressure coming from numerous powerful sources. Good for Trump on this one. And bad on WHO and Biden.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What race card ? You cant debate the real issue so you make it about race ?

    It has nothing to do with their race, it has to do with the fact that he let American citizens travel from a region that he said indigenous persons couldn't. The virus is cared by HUMANS, not just Chinese humans. FFS.
     
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    I don't know where you get your info, but it is wrong.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/coronavirus-fauci-trump-anti-malaria-drug
     
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    He did...he banned any Chinese person from coming into the United States. The experts say it helped a great deal.
     
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    Yeah, a month late, and even today it isn't the total ban Trump portrays at as
     
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    Obvious you don't get it, over 400,000 people came early in the crisis when Trump was reluctant to install the ban, and when he did, it was a half ass ban, proven by the fact over 40,000 have entered since the ban

    As far as experts, sure it helped, it had to even though it was late, but that is like saying the fire department got to your house an hour late but it did get there
     
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    Oh no, your not going to shadow is the lame film clip are you?

    If you watch the clip you will see that they are talking about the Chinese New Year, which was in mid January when Trump was telling Americans it wasn't a problem, that he "had it contained," must be they mistakenly believed Trump
     
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    well yeah of course he was...it's a big deal to shut down travel. Even when he did shut it down, China and their puppets at the WHO and DNC attacked the President.

    Yes, he didn't ban Americans from coming home....obviously he wasn't going to do that, and people still did come home
     
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    When you ban a country yes you ban the people in the country.. Thanks for that brilliant deduction.
     
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