Stay at home orders are a joke, here's why

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

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    The Queen got on TV and thanked everybody today, including those who're are staying at home.


    When push comes to shove, even my own government's not above teaching everybody how to wash our hands and grounding us; guess the safest way to protect something is to treat it like a kid.
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    Yes - like ALL industries, there are regulations. You forgot about OSHA, equal employment, taxes, unemployment insurance, FDA, etc.

    That doesn't mean that our manufacturing, healthcare, agriculture, energy and other segments aren't capitalist.
     
  3. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s exactly what it means. Capitalism requires a separation between the free markets and the state. not government permission to make a profit.
     
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    I also liked how she encouraged people to think about how we will look back at the contributions and sacrifice that led a nation through this threat - something we all need to be part of.

    I was impressed by her leadership. A strong and positive message of unity and resolve.
     
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    Sorry dude.

    We are a capitalist nation. And, EVERY business works under federal regulation.
     
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  6. Starjet

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    Sorry dude, your assertion is ass backwards. We are a mixed economy sliding downward into the abyss of a fascist economy. Hell, Sweden is more capitalistic than America, and becoming more so every day. Hell, American doctors can’t even treat this virus without first kissing the ass of some bullshit hit GD FDA Hitler like Fauci.
     
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  7. Starjet

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    Gee. An alphabet of tyrants in a society of free men. Go figure. Once you let the government fk you in the name of humanity, you are no longer a virgin nor a free being, no matter how hard you try to deny.
     
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  8. WillReadmore

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    Now you're moaning about having people who actually know the topic!
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    The people I mentioned make no laws or policy. They get no financial reward for what they say. All they do is to inform us.

    We can handle the truth.

    Or, at least most of us can lol.
     
  10. Starjet

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    Fauci? He’s nothing but a real life Floyd Ferris.
     
  11. crank

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    No one knows whether they're 'high risk' until they get it, so every infection leads to potentially exponentially more deaths. The only way, short of a universal vaccination program, to stop it spreading is social distance. Unlike bacteria, viruses need hosts to survive. That's our weapon against them. Unfortunately we have no choice but to deprive the virus of hosts, if we want to beat it. Masks etc won't do much if crowds are still gathering, and people are still handling surfaces without observing decontamination protocols, etc.

    If you'd followed those guidelines in the absence of social distancing and border control, your death toll would be even higher than it is today, and your economy might never recover. The evidence is very clear at this stage .. closing borders (including internal borders), and stringent social isolation is the key to beating this thing.
     
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    Obviously, you are one of those who can’t.

    “John Mackey, the CEO of Whole Foods, recently came under fire when he told NPR that Obamacare is a fascist program. Mackey said of the health law, which he had previously suggested was socialist:


    JOHN MACKEY WAS RIGHT — OBAMACARE IS FASCIST

    Technically speaking, it’s more like fascism. Socialism is where the government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn’t own the means of production, but they do control it — and that’s what’s happening with our health-care programs and these reforms.”
    https://ari.aynrand.org/john-mackey-was-right-obamacare-is-fascist/

    The Immorality of Government Medicine
     
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    Unfortunately, too many people are behaving like children.
     
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    A united nation is crucial to beating this. If people are working against each other, instead of the common enemy, we fail.
     
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    COVID response has nothing to do with Obamacare.
     
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    Our friend appears to be losing it. I'm seeing pronounced fear-driven denial in a lot of people (both here, and IRL). We should have expected it, but the numbers are concerning.
     
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    I think what we have done is an absolute disaster. I would have isolated the at risk - those over 60, those with one or more comorbidities - and gone about as normal untik a vaccine is found.

    But we've taken this action now and I won't sabotage it.
     
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    I am not worried about Trump forcing corps to make medical equipment during a crisis

    what is more concerning is corporatism controlling our government
     
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    now that they say cats and dogs can also catch this virus, outdoor cats may actually add to the threat if they can pass it back to humans
     
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    I certainly think it's within every American's constitutional right to die from Coronavirus if that's their choice. Every so often it helps to thin out the herd of idiots in this country.
     
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    Stay at home, be safe, and live.
     
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    They have a great Formual 1 Grand Prix there every year.
     
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    You need this Church.

    https://god.dailydot.com/pastor-ton...zy-sqJqpymxxrqORMZ45QEY7zlwvmAlcAInjnO0PkzF7A
     
  24. FreshAir

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    this is a truck driver, one of our essential workers talking about his experiences in many states he has visited

    warning, some swearing in the video, so do not watch if that offends people

     
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    Good to hear. Sounds like party time, once this government created fiasco is over...and I don’t mean this puny virus.
     
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