A 3,000% Jump in Jobless Claims Has Devastated the US Job Market.

Evasion. What does the "19" in COVID-19 mean?

It is well known at this point that China has been suppressing information relating to COVID-19 and has been outright lying about their number of cases and number of deaths.

No, it is direct from government intelligence agencies.

Ignored irrational argumentation. You have yet to clear your paradox.

Racism Fallacy. Racism is a rather nasty fallacy to commit, you know...

Argument By Repetition Fallacy. I have already addressed this.

Argument By Repetition Fallacy. I have already addressed this fear mongering.

COVID-19 is just a flu.

Denying the existence of a paradox does not make it go away. You must choose one of the other and stick with it.

Ignored irrational reasoning as you haven't cleared your paradox.

Not what a fact is. Facts are simply assumed predicate, not a universal truth or a proof.

Ignoring "argumentation via holy link". Form your own arguments.

Argument By Repetition Fallacy. I have already addressed this.

Strawman Argument Fallacy. I said that Trump cannot declare free will to be null and void, I did not say that he was powerless.

I don't believe you.

A model is only as good as its inputs.

It IS a flu. It is a variant of SARS, also a flu.

 

Regarding your first question:

"In COVID-19, 'CO' stands for 'corona,' 'VI' for 'virus,' and 'D' for disease. Formerly, this disease was referred to as “2019 novel coronavirus” or “2019-nCoV”.

It took two minutes on Google to find that, btw.

In answer to your last question:

No, SARS is not influenza, and neither is COVID-19. Along with MERS and the common cold, these are a different classification of viruses.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

 

Ask the WHO who made up that name in 2020.

Everybody is under reporting. They aint testing people who dropped dead coughing grasping for air till they suffocated. Italy has flown in Russian, Chinese and Cuban doctors (as well as German etc, but just to show how f* desperate they are) to help out. They don't got time for that crap in hospitals. I heard they are almost only are testing people who are patients or who work in hospitals in The Netherlands. Testing in the US is also still limited to not everybody who is suspicious. That doesn't mean... that they are making LIES or covering it up. That still is right wing fake news.

Just the GOP at the helm of their mass and not wanting to be made responsible. There are compilation vids out how right wing media first reported it on tv, to than make a u-turns how they report it now. That's them parroting the GOP. Truth is out.

Massive difference between:
- preventing the virus to enter your country with a host;
- preventing the virus spreading in your country when it's within your borders.

You're just being dishonest and refuse to even respond to my claim that there is a difference
That's how you can cling on to the fake news that Donald prevented the spread in his country.

Hypothetically, there can be cases where racism plays a big roll.
This is one of them.

You haven't presented better experts contradicting the 100k to 240k death toll.
You made an argumentum ad verecundiam. A fallacy from you.
The opinion of the experts I presented stands, until proven otherwise.

^^
It's a historic fact. A universal truth captured on camera.

Fake. It's not just a flu for the current human population.

You failed to disprove my link and tossed in argumentum ad verecundiam.
My source stands that Donald disbanded the pandemic team, until proven otherwise.

Donald has more power than a governor. A governor is able to do this. Argument dismissed.

https://time.com/5813489/white-house-projects-100k-240k-deaths-coronavirus/
Birx said pandemic forecasts initially predicted 1.5 million to 2.2 million deaths in the U.S. But that was a worst-case scenario, without efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus through social distancing.

You have no models that are better. Hence this model stands.

already answered.

 

Splendid! You are right about all of that. So, now going back to notme's claim that China didn't discover human to human transmission until 01/20/20 (post #102), obviously that is false since China knew about the virus in 2019. In fact, on that very day, the first USA case was reported. Obviously China knew it was transmitting human to human well before then, as China recorded their first death on January 11th (I think they're lying about that too btw).

Never said that it was. COVID-19 is a variant of SARS, which is a coronavirus. Influenza (the "common flu"), on the other hand, is an orthomyxovirus. However, COVID-19 is a flu, as is SARS, as is MERS. The "common flu" is also a flu.

... as I have said.

 

I'm not sure who you are responding to, but this is helpful to combat the, "I know more than the doctors," people I've been putting on ignore. There's not a single doctor who believes this is a flu.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

 

Evasion. Answer the question put forth to you.

Confirmed cases are being reported just fine across the board, with the exception of lying China. However, remember that confirmed cases are NOT total cases. Deaths are being over reported across the board, with the exception of lying China.

I think you mean "gasping" for air. Air cannot be grasped...

Italy has shitty health care. That is their main issue. Other countries have much better health care.

How are asymptomatic celebrities getting tested then?

You hate the GOP. I got it.

No, you just think that denying the existence of a paradox can magickally make it go away. You need to resolve your paradox.

The only racism here is the racism that YOU are inserting into it (where none exists). That in and of itself is racism...

I presented that Fauci didn't claim that those numbers were expected results, via the 03/31/20 presser. Watch the presser itself rather than the MSM twisting of it.

First off, using latin does not make one sound any smarter. Just say "argument from authority". And I made no appeal to any authority, YOU are the one doing that. That's three fallacies on your part right there... The Fallacy Fallacy, the Inversion Fallacy, and the Appeal to Authority Fallacy.

And here's another fallacy on your part (along with continuing the Appeal to Authority Fallacy)... This one is known as the Argument From Ignorance Fallacy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I don't watch videos. Form your own arguments.

Yes it is.

Already addressed earlier.

He has power as outlined in the Constitution.

Actually, the State governors have acted illegally. They have no Constitutional authority to do what they did.

Ignored. Form your own arguments please.

Argument From Ignorance Fallacy.

Argument By Repetition Fallacy.

 

As far as I heard. 10 to 15% of all common flu viruses are some form of a Corona virus. There are specific cat and dog corona viruses. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_coronavirus) They are everywhere. It is the flu. Doesn't mean we're resistent to all Corona, or that the cat corona can just jump ship and infect humans.

 

Quite the opposite. Results speak for themselves.

 

How should CA lower the wage gap other than via socialism?

 

No, it is not a form of influenza. Please read the link I provided in comment #227.

 

Maybe they can get out of the way and minimize taxes.

 

The high taxes are inflating the wealth at the top?

 

We're disagreeing on the definition of flu, not on the details about the viruses themselves.

 

No evasion. You refuse to look it up. Apparently not interested. Not my problem.

I already argued everybody is under reporting. That's not considered lying. Get over it.

You go source this nonsense.

irrelevant to the point that US is also under reporting. The US is: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51761435

Personal attack.

Still refusing to argue that there is a significant difference between closing borders to not let a virus in, and having a virus run free within your borders. Petty. My argument stands by the lack of your rebuke.

I didn't invent the racism in the US. Contemporary history: They got nazi's running around armed, yelling anti-semitic crap etc. People support their pro-slaver monuments. Jim Crow era ended when Donald Trump was in his 20's. Fun facts.

Irrelevant if Fauci said this or not.
It was presented in the WH where Trump was holding his news conference about Corona.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...40000-deaths-coronavirus-200331222101557.html

Nope. I source my things.
You dismiss them with an argument from authority.
I am dismissing your opinion.

Have some evidence:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...40000-deaths-coronavirus-200331222101557.html

Not my problem you don't watch video's. Your complaint is dismissed.
The fact stands that fork lift trucks are used to dump corpses in 18 wheelers.

Nope. Otherwise it doesn't explain the high amount of deaths, even when the world takes precautions against the spreading of it.

I don't care about your previous opinion.
My source still stands that Donald disbanded the pandemic team, until proven otherwise.

Trump can ban interstate travel, not the governors. Trump does nothing. Besides that... Trump said something like.. "Well you can do a national lockdown. Hopefully we’re not going to need that… It’s something we talk about, but we haven’t decided to do that". Calling him a liar?

source it

My source still stands that millions of people could have died and that Donald played no part in preventing that.
It stands until proven otherwise.

Argumentum ad verecundiam. The models stand until you provide better models.

 

The sure sign of an IQ in the 70’s: “orangeman good.”

Isn't making posts completely lacking in substance fun?

 

Much more correct and concise, It's the Chinese virus. Just like the Hong Kong flu of years ago.

 

Back away from the wikipedia article about logical fallacies, as you fundamentally misunderstand many of them, and make an actual argument.

PS. You are almost certainly a sock-puppet account for a long banned member. I don't remember the name, as it was like 10 years ago, but the complete lack of substance mixed with constant fallacy fallacies is unmistakably the same.

 

Dems enjoy a super majority and results speak for themselves. Higher taxes mostly affect working people. The wealthy can always send the work where labor is cheap. Im surprised you weren't aware of the number of companies leaving CA due to its difficult business climate.

 

I do not accept Wikipedia as a source of anything, including logical fallacies.

Nope, the misunderstanding is yours. That is called an Inversion Fallacy (also known as "projection").

Already have.

Sock accusations are not arguments.

If you wish for me to expand upon anything, just let me know. Show that you have the intent to learn and I would be glad to teach you.

 

Ok...

Thank you for proving my point for me. That isn't what an inversion fallacy is. An inversion fallacy would be something like having the claim "all people who own dogs like dogs" and someone using that claim to say "people who do not own dogs don't like dogs." If the first claim is true, it doesn't make the second claim true, which is where the fallacy comes in. It is pretty ridiculous that in the response where you are denying that you misuse and misunderstand logical fallacies, you misuse and misunderstand logical fallacies.

No substance.

Are they meant to be? It is true though, which is the point here.

You can't teach someone using your methods. First of all, you need to understand things to teach them, so thats gonna be a problem. Second of all, shouting about how everything is a logical fallacy isn't a teaching method. So while I would love for you to try to make a coherent and substantive argument, I won't hold my breath.

 

The poor in California make more than the poor in most other states. So how would less taxes shrink the gap?

 

CA leads in poverty when you take the cost of living into account.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...alifornia-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

Do you think the government can impose extremely high taxes and businesses won't pass that along to the consumer?

 

California's taxes are actually reasonably low...

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416/

 

The top 10 highest income tax states for 2019 are:

• California 13.3%
• Hawaii 11%
• Oregon 9.9%
• Minnesota 9.85%
• Iowa 8.98%
• New Jersey 8.97%
• Vermont 8.95%
• District of Columbia 8.95%
• New York 8.82%
• Wisconsin 7.65%

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/fun-facts/states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-taxes/L6HPAVqSF

That doesn't include our high property taxes, gas tax, registration fees, sales tax (Almost 10% in Los Angeles)

 

The high cost of living is because of taxes?