Why was the 2009 pandemic not taken ANYWHERE NEAR as seriously as COVID-19?

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  1. Crownline

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    China got the recipe right this time.
     
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    You lose!
     
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    It's the Obama BC all over!
    You give them exactly what they demand and they will not accept it!!!!!
    "You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reach through reason."

    - John Beaderstadt
     
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    You avoided both questions, responding instead with another attack on President Trump. Obviously, that's all you know. :icon_picknose:
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    "BC?"

    What exactly am I not accepting?
     
  6. chris155au

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    What are these alleged "scandals?"
     
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    Yep, well found! I should say that I don't live in the US and wasn't there in 09.
     
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    Your peculiar fixation upon past medical crises does not reflect reality. In fact, hand-washing was among the preventative measures strongly promoted at the time:

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    In fact, the CDC had issued guidelines in 2009 that would have likely reduced the severity and duration of COVID-19 had they been strenuously promoted as soon as medical experts had sounded the warning* rather than pretending that it was "under control", "not a problem", and falsely claiming that "everybody is getting better!" (Trump, February 25, 2020)

    * CDC's Nancy Messonnier warned of the Coronavirus in the United States in a conference call this week: "Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in this country. It’s not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness. We will maintain for as long as practical a dual approach where we continue measures to contain this disease but also employ strategies to minimize the impact on our communities. At this time, there’s no vaccine to protect against this new virus and no medications approved to treat it." February 25, 2020

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...irus_in_us_not_a_question_of_if_but_when.html
     
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    The snivelers cannot defend the multiple documented, irresponsible, noxious exudates spewed by their messiah, and so, predictably, they revert to their fake claims about their perennial bête noire default diversion.

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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about
    OBAMA?"

     
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    BC is birth certificate.
     
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    I haven't ONCE said that preventative measures weren't being promoted during swine flu. I'm just asking if anyone can recall it because I can't. I wasn't living in the US at that time and still don't.

    Ah ha! This is what I was looking for. Okay, so clearly preventative measures were a thing then. Good work finding this.
    Sorry, why is it up to Trump to execute the promotion of CDC guidelines?
     
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    The information is readily available to anyone interested in ascertaining the truth.
    If one needs to selectively excuse Trump for any of the the actions and inactions of his regime, they have been so licensed:


     
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    What do you get when you cross Richard Nixon's corruption with Herbert Hoover's crisis management skills? Throw in the business savvy and charm of the Sham-Wow Guy with the mental stability and dignity of The Situation from Jersey Shore?

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    Trump could have stayed quiet, let the experts handle it, but he chose not too, he chose to put up the mission accomplished flag before the battle had even begun
     
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    And this means that he told the CDC to stop working on coronavirus? Surely you can't be serious!
     
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    How does this answer the question: why is it up to Trump to execute the promotion of CDC guidelines?
     
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    What exactly am I not accepting?
     
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    Works just fine for me...
     
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    Oh no... Gonna be some heartbroken haters.

    U.S. Coronavirus Hospitalizations Lower than Predicted: NY Marks 75% Drop


    The number of people hospitalized across the United States as a result of the novel coronavirus illness (COVID-19) is reportedly only a fraction of what some health experts projected a few days ago.

    On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters that in his state alone, the epicenter of the viral outbreak in the United States, new coronavirus hospitalizations dropped by about 75 percent, from 1,427 four days ago to 358 on Sunday.

    Highlighting the drop in new hospitalizations in NY, the state hardest hit (131,239 cases; 4,758 deaths as of Monday) by the coronavirus, Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who has been following the U.S. outbreak closely, observed on Twitter on Monday: “It’s over, guys. It’s already over.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ations-lower-than-predicted-ny-marks-75-drop/
     
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    Must be because I'm not in the US, although I can't think why.
     
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    It was due to the fact H1N1 originated in Mexico, a source of Democrat voters.
     
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    Yeah, but what's the connection between this and prevention methods?
     
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    Obama/Biden didn't restrict travel to the country of origin nor did they close the border to all but essential crossings. Obama/Biden's preventions method was washing hands and monitoring the dead and dying.
     
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    He didn't call it a hoax. He called the media coverage a hoax on the level of Russia collusion, impeachment and other Democrat fabricated media hoaxes. His comment was genius. The same media that blamed Reagan for HIV first called Trump xenophobic for restricting travel of sick Chinese people back and forth to spread the disease around the world. Then Pelosi went to Chinatown with a megaphone to make sure the disease Xi globalized would spread at a rapid pace around the US. The people who weren't taking the disease seriously were those who set the priority to steer the 2020 election through impeachment instead of focusing on a health and national security threat. Where was Adam Schiff while the threat from overseas was ravaging American lives? Isn't that what his intel committee supposed to be about?
     

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