"430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced"

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Yup, did you understand my point about the southern boarder :wierdface:
     
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    You're gonna get a headache trying to step on flopping fish! Even if you happen to get a foot on one they SLIP right out from under it and flop away :)
     
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    Hence it is not a travel ban to China! Which bit don't you get? You even stated that flying to China was happening, hence not a ban on flying to China. And, firstly, as for parts of China with zero reported cases, I've seen many posters saying China have been lying. So, have China been lying or not? Secondly, there was nothing stopping those US citizens flying to China and then traveling to places that had reported infected cases and then flying back to the US and free to just go home. Those same US citizens were free to repeat this schedule many times until last week.
     
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    LOL! "The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency authorization for experimental coronavirus treatments using chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, anti-malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump despite inconclusive clinical proof of their efficacy."

    I hope it helps, but this article is hardly a resounding endorsement.
     
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    You don’t know what I think about the southern border. But you justify it any way you want. The border isn’t closed because it would hurt “business”. Nothing more, nothing less
     
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    Day workers are considered “Commerce”
     
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    “Brown” = descriptor.....

    I see you left out the other posts where I called the Chinese nationals, or “indigenous”
     
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    So you make something up to fit your own agenda, then use it to call other out ?

    It has NOTHING to do with race. It has EVERYTHING to do with lies. Using white and brown is nothing but a descriptor. Nothing more nothing less. Trump did NOT have a travel ban. Be only banned Chinese nationals, yet let Americans (white) people travel freely. Hw in the hell is that protecting America ?

    You make it about what you want it to be because you cannot defend what actually happened. The “travel ban” was supposed to be put in place to help stop the spread of the virus from, what at the time was the hotbed of infection. But if you don’t actually have a travel ban, and you let selective people thru it, then you aren protecting ANYONE.

    But TDS doesn’t allow the Trumpers to see the facts in front of them. Defend at all costs, even when those costs are the safety of you and your family.

    If This was president Hillary I’m pretty sure that the right wing in this country would be marching in the streets with pitchforks wanting to hang here in the public square
     
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    JFC. I never said we should have open borders. Take you faugh outrage somewhere else. And we don’t just let anyone across the border. We actually have border crossing stations. The wall wont fix any of that. The wall is nothing more than a “symbol” to anyone who has any common sense. To the right it has become so much more than it really is. But hey, you do you
     
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    Your citation they are being allowed through under "trade"?
     
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    Did you read the article? 17 deaths for a localized virus. 550 cases and even so the Trump took action. China and WHO were minimizing the impact. Democrats attacked Trump for his actions. You folks are getting pathetic...
     
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    JFC, I didn't say you did :wierdface::no::no::roll::roflol:

    Settle down and read Buddy :) And JFC is a disgusting term, even the dirtiest of trash I ride with don't use that term :) Try something like FMR F%$# ME RUN'n :)
     
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    There's context to lying. Have you ever been in a situation where you had to comfort a child or a younger sibling, and told a little white lie to make them comfortable? Obviously lives are/were at stake, but the President didn't want a catastrophe on his hands and wanted to reassure the American Public that there wouldn't be a catastrophe on his hands.

    Unfortunately, words don't mean much to a virus. But also, the failures of the CDC/WHO should be put on the failures of THOSE organizations. I've yet to see a single post blaming these health organizations for being inadequately prepared(despite the CDC having an increased budget.)

    It's a lot like the teacher's union at this point: Like Obama said, there's only so much dough we can throw at the problem.
     
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    Oh, I see. Trump was lying to people to spare their feelings? Because he wanted to comfort them? Pardon me while I go off in gales of laughter. You're talking about the guy who cheated on his wife right after their son was born. The guy who paid $25 million to people he defrauded with his phony "university". The guy who was fined ten grand for misusing a charity for veterans (that he later had to close down, of course).

    THAT guy was lying to comfort people?

    Please.

    There IS a catastrophe on our hands. There was when he stupidly predicted cases would be "near zero" in April. It's possible to comfort people without making up absolute BS.

    They mean a lot to the people who HAVE the virus. Who could get the virus. Or to the 12,000 families who have lost a loved one now. If you lost someone to this virus, would you want the President of the U.S. talking about TV ratings? No, you would not.

    Look harder. People have been bashing the CDC's lack of testing since January. Do I need to dig up one of my old posts?

    Yeah, I doubt Obama said that, and this is nothing like "the teacher's union". Remember when you thought Coronavirus was a bacteria?
     
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    Dude you were claiming you could fly to or from there last week, the week before, and the week before that. Let's just say based on those statements I don't believe your 40,000 number but even if 40,000 Americans came home they were quarantined. In on of the briefings Pompeau was using military planes to get some home and then quarantined. Of course, we weren't going to leave Americans that's stupid, but they went to quarantine. You on the other hand were claiming Chinese people could still come here which was and is BS without very special circumstances.
     
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    you nor anyone else knew what this was. Not WHO, Not the CDC, and NOONE in government around the world. Armchair QBing is boring.
     
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    Dig harder, it's amusing.
     
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    And it certainly didn't help at the time with China lying to the world community about the nature of the beast.
     
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    My 40,000? It's in the OP!. Have you even bothered to read the links in the OP before sticking your head in the sand and spouting that it is all lies. Those 40,000 were not quarantined. When did I say that Chinese people could fly to the US? You are just making crap up now!

    And here are a couple of extracts as clearly you could not be bothered to read any links:
    I have been posting about these flights for over a month now but finally they are now being reported in daily newspapers. Trump lied, there was no flight ban to and from China for US citizens
     
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    yes.
     
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    Its impossible to discuss a topic when someone just screams and never cites evidence.
     
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    (vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(C) or (D) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(C) or (D), as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;
     
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    One) In order for that to make sense we have to know what all of

    101(a)(15)(C) or (D) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(C

    States..

    Two a link would be wonderful.. Copyright infringement and all that ~
     

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