Whistleblowers silenced by China could have stopped global coronavirus spread | 60 Minutes Australi

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  1. Zorro

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    Oh, there is solid empirical evidence of Official Chinese Lying in these deadly episode.

    Time to put China on lockdown for its dishonesty amid coronavirus crisis.

    “China’s response was inept, dishonest and utterly inconsiderate of the world. We need to teach the Chinese government a lesson.”​

    China needs to be isolated from the civilized world until its behavior improves. We are in the current situation, with deaths and economic devastation worldwide, because China handled this outbreak with its trademark mixture of dishonesty, incompetence and thuggery. Were China a more civilized nation, this outbreak would have been stopped early, and with far less harm, inside and outside of China.

    Further, It's entirely possible that the COVID-19 virus was accidentally released by a Chinese virology lab in Wuhan.

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    The Civilized World's response needs to be harsh enough to teach the Chinese government a lesson, which means pretty harsh, as they appear to still think they can brazen this out. Among other things, the United States — and ideally the world community at large — need to sharply reduce economic relations with China. In particular, no one should be relying on them for medicines, medical equipment and other vital goods. China’s state news service threatened to plunge America into a “mighty sea” of coronavirus by withholding critical medications. Chinese scientists should no longer have easy access to Western laboratories or universities. Chinese political leaders should no longer find it easy to travel the world.

    Congress should pass legislation stripping the Chinese government of sovereign immunity to lawsuits for COVID-19 damage in the United States. China should be stripped of its leadership roles in international organizations. And finally, Taiwan — a nation that has handled the outbreak better than almost any other nation, but has been excluded from the World Health Organization because its membership would offend the Chinese government — deserves membership in WHO, and full diplomatic recognition from the United States, and the rest of the world.

    Congress should pass legislation stripping the Chinese government of sovereign immunity to lawsuits for COVID-19 damage in the United States. China should be stripped of its leadership roles in international organizations. And finally, Taiwan — a nation that has handled the outbreak better than almost any other nation, but has been excluded from the World Health Organization because its membership would offend the Chinese government — deserves membership in WHO, and full diplomatic recognition from the United States, and the rest of the world.
     
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    Exactly so. After this is all over there will be a manufacturing boom as it is brought home from China.

    And screw the WHO, they are lying shills for their Chinese masters.
     
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    i'm looking for news, any person or group can submit PDF to WH then published. the pdf can be submit from multiple organization include cdc, and others. so again where is the news says Trump didn't fire Pandemic Response Team, cause i can't link at least dozen article that said otherwise, and you can't find 3 reputable source. also NSC is made up various talent, Pandemic Response Team just one of its branch.
    so again plz couple sources, so you got 1 from washingtonpost under OPINION section, even though its Opinion sure, ill take it, 2 more source to prove your point.
     
  4. Zorro

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    Yup. Actually even until a week later. Beijing denied until Jan. 20 that human to human transmission was occurring. Yet at the same time, Chinese officials and state-owned companies were urgently acquiring bulk medical supplies — especially personal protective equipment like masks and gloves — from Australia, Europe, and around the world. Put simply, Beijing hoarded the world’s life-saving resources while falsely claiming that people’s lives weren’t at risk.

    Showing NO respect for US, they continued flights from China to the United States at the rate of some 20,000 passengers a day, until President Trump wisely shut them down.

    They need to pay a price: Restricted travel for Chinese officials, restricted trade relations limited to non-essentials, restricted access to Western Labs and full recognition of Taiwan, which did a fabulous job on this crisis.
     
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    Yes its an "opinion" by someone on the National Security Council that goes over facts and was posted by the Washington Post..

    So again perhaps you should actually read something instead of posting nonsense and then wanting people to back up your nonsense.
     
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    like i said until government official and most major news said otherwise, it just conspiracy theory. heck even with Trump hating China so much and want to put all blame including his mishandling in jan/feb on China, he hasn't public said its bioweapon is it. so yea conspiracy theory
     
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    ok who is guys? cause i have seen so many claim or "anonymous" etc etc. like i said, if its true, there should be plenty headline on this, right?
     
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    Great. Glad to finally see a liberal poster show some support for holding the Chinese responsible for their irresponsibility and malignancy. And, as you say, the toothpaste is out.
     
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    so if Taiwan did a fabulous jobs, btw they dont have access to WHO, how come we did a poor job. SK is another example, could it be trump delay it and didn't take it seriouslly for two month ;)
     
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    Yes. That is the issue you continue to rely on that and then scream for people to prove you wrong when i gave you facts straight from the source...
     
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    You don't find information credible until a "major news" reports it? Were you asleep during "Russia, Russia, Russia"? For three years they fed lies to the American People and the world. Are you claiming their claims were credible because they are "major news"?

    You are badly confused. Claims are measure against the real world. If they match the real world, they are true, if they are falsified by the real world, they are lies.

    In the Real World, China lied about human to human transmission. This is a fact, even if you can't find a Fake News Clown to announce it.
     
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    Did you read the link? They should have access to WHO and the current leadership in WHO should be removed for mindlessly repeating Chinese lies to the great detriment of the world.
    We are doing a fabulous job. The top 5 death rates per million by region/country are 943, 298, 285, 283, and 176.

    Thanks to Trump's fabulous early efforts, while the Democrats were trying to impeach him, efforts that they slandered, resisted, and sabotaged, the CDC has confirmed that Trump saved thousands of American lives.

    US death rate per Million is only 38.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
    It's interesting how some folks accuse their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of:

    Even as Trump was already mobilizing to protect the United States from the coronavirus, Pelosi was on her virtue-signaling, coronavirus-spreading tour of Chinatown in her San Francisco district as late as Feb. 24. Huddled in a crowd, reassuringly holding the hands of a woman she was talking to outside of a Chinese gift shop. No gloves and no hand sanitizer were in sight as she did exactly the wrong things to stop the spread of coronavirus.

    “It’s exciting to be here, especially at this time, to be able to be unified with our community,” the House speaker said while encircled by supporters and media.​

    “We want to say to people, ‘Come to Chinatown, here we are — we’re, again, careful, safe — and come join us.'”​

    That’s right — Pelosi was not only shaking hands and spending time in crowds, but she was also urging folks to flock to Chinatown.

    3 weeks later, this county and ALL five adjoining counties would be in S-I-P lockdown in order to contain the deadly spread. GREAT JOB NANCY, YOU SURE SHOWED TRUMP!

     
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    ~ At this point it is obvious that W.H.O. & China were in collusion to keep secret that the Wuhan virus was becoming an epidemic. They lied to the CDC and Dr. Fauci was duped - hence claiming there wa no danger in the U.S.
    Had Trump not initiated the travel ban when he did there would be thousands more dead.

    End of tape . ..
     
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    if you consider 12k dead and raising is fabulous , then you got some serious issue. how about compare to taiwan, singapore or SK. yes taiwan can't access WHO, cause CCP block it, do a google search. WHO is not repeating lies, especially it has CDC member in it, they make mistake in the early days. Unless you have solid prove of it. i mean would you call CDC not recommend wear mask just few week ago as intentional lies or the false test kit lies or Trump calling FLU for almost 2 month lol. didn't he said it will be gone in couple week in early feb ;),

    oh btw china just start exporting mask, pretty sure they want the $$$

    https://www.snowjoe.com/products/kn95-protective-face-mask-ce-certified-gb2626-standard-5-pack?utm_source=Snow+Joe+++Sun+Joe&utm_campaign=01c0f45edb-1ST+EMAIL+DISINFECT+++PROTECT+(4.04)-No+NJ+NY&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6a5c3208de-01c0f45edb-56424529&mc_cid=01c0f45edb&mc_eid=462d4dece3
     
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    Whistle blowers are fake stories.
    No one believe them.
     
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    That's fake news. You are deliberately misconstruing my point and then attacking your own misconstrual, an odd form of self-stimulation that you might want to rethink. It's much more intelligent to engage the actual point being made than to make one up, attribute it to another and then attack your own mental construct.

    We are currently projected to lose 81,766 Americans in this outbreak. This is an improvement over last week's projection of 95,000. With the way the daily data continues to come in better than expected under the leadership of Trump and Governors, I wouldn't be surprised by another positive revision next week and hopefully continuing.

    This is a fabulous improvement over the original forecasts of 240,000, even a turnip, if sentient could understand that point without tripping over it's own shoelaces, if turnips wore shoes.

    Italy for example, already has 17,127 dead. If we were experiencing their deaths per million, we would already have 70,000 dead, and we only have 1/5th to a sixth of that. So, yes, Trump's done a much better job. We have also been fighting the virus longer than Italy, so are further along in the process than Italy and let's face it, our private health care system, and the spirit of cooperation among Americans have both been superior to what we have seen in Italy, Spain and much of Western Europe.
    Duh! I have no need to google it, this is widely known. You might as well ask me to google if the Sun rises in the east. More silliness.
    Yes they did, they repeated bald-faced Chinese lies.
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    WHO Clown Puts Appeasing China Ahead Of World Health and Spurns Taiwan

    WHO’s current leadership have regularly demonstrated their servility to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and they need to resign. The latest example comes in the form of a now-viral video interview, in which a WHO senior adviser abruptly ends the interview when asked about Taiwan. Dodging questions about Taiwan to please Beijing is indicative of a systemic problem within WHO leadership: a subservience to Beijing that comes at the expense of its stated commitment to public health.

    In December, the WHO refused to act on or publicize Taiwan’s warning that the new respiratory infection emerging in China could pass from human to human. In mid January, despite accumulating evidence of patients contracting what we now know as COVID-19 from other people, the organization repeated the CCP’s lie that there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission. In January the WHO, at Beijing’s behest, also blocked Taiwan from participating in critical meetings to coordinate responses to the coronavirus and even reportedly provided wrong information about the virus’s spread in Taiwan. These actions are unacceptable and should not be allowed to continue.

    The Civilized World needs to rebuke Lying China for needlessly killing so many in the world, and promptly recognize Taiwan so they can take their proper seat among the Community of Nations.
    Weird that you don't extend that same courtesy to Trump and he isn't even a doctor.
     
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    Couldn't agree more and the Boycott of China should start with all people of the World outside of China. When you go to the store, ABSOLUTELY refuse to buy anything that says MADE IN CHINA. It's going to take some time to WEEN! ourselves off the Chinese Teete, but it can and must happen. If there is a store you frequently shop out and you find out they have ANY! Made in China products, Boycott that store and let the Management know that you're putting the word out that they sell Chinese Products. There are plenty of other Nations that can provide the same goods as China does and we need to start doing more business and trade with those Countries, NOT FRIGGEN CHINA. Until the people of China rise up and Denounce their Government Leaders as Criminals, convict them of War Crimes and execute them, things need to made extremely tough economically in China.
     
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    81,766 Americans in this outbreak, thats a lot more Americans then we lost in the Viet Nam War, which was 58,220. China cannot be allowed to get away with this.
     
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    Yes. And that was over 10 years, not in 5 months.
     
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    China and the WHO (an arm of the Chi coms) lied about the virus.
     
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    The Dems work against Trump. They want to see him fail, so they can win in November.

    Does that kind of opposition exist in SK?
     
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    We have a much lower death rate than other countries. Trump is doing something right.
     

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