The scheme Trump intends to pull off, to get him reelected. Hydrocloroquine

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  1. david gullikson

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    No, campaign donors make the big bucks.

    Trump and GOP Donors Have Financial Interests In Hydroxychloroquine Maker
    http://bloggingblue.com/2020/04/tru...ancial-interests-in-hydroxychloroquine-maker/
     
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  2. david gullikson

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    And just because Trump does not get RICH offa it, does NOT mean he will not use it to get reelected. See Ukraine.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again. The choice to use it is not Trump's. It is between the doctor and the patient.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can I be counted in that group? A little research brought to light I have three "investments" through one of my Vanguard accounts.


    It's a flippin generic drug.

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    I want you to show exactly how Trump elevated the projected death toll. Prove it. It is my belief others are respomnsible for that in order to weaponize the problem against him. Leftists are twisting and squirming especially after Russian Collusion failed. Now they are engaged in "China Collusion"......guess I didn't save my breath.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if you die, the left will use your statistic as one that died of "China Virus".
     
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    Experts and Trump’s advisers doubt White House’s 240,000 ...
    Trump projects up to 240,000 coronavirus deaths in U.S ...

    Modelers Cast Doubt on Death Toll Projections They Gave Trump!
    https://news.iheart.com/featured/ru...bt-on-death-toll-projections-they-gave-trump/

    Experts, Trump’s advisers doubt White House’s 240,000 coronavirus deaths estimate
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e...40000-coronavirus-deaths-estimate/ar-BB1263eT


    It is called the door in the face sales technique, taught in Trump University.

    Say I will only charge you a million dollars for this big mac.

    You say, that is crazy, I will not pay that.

    OK, then available for a limited time, I will sell it to you for $1.99!!!!!!!

    SURE, I'll take a dozen.
     
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    There's two narratives that will be told no matter what the reality of the situation.

    Narrative one: We over reacted. Low death toll due to ineffective virus.

    Narrative two: We under reacted. Low death toll due to intervention.

    People will fight over these two narratives until everyone forgets the virus was even a thing. All these machinations to plug the facts into the subscribed grand narrative are just cognitive dissonance. One day the complaint is that Trump doesn't listen to experts. The next day the same complainant complains about the experts. One day the complaint is that Trump acted too rashly. The next day the complaint is that he didn't act rashly enough. And now on day three the complain is that he acted too rashly again. These strategies make it so blatantly clear what the actual agenda is.

    Stop. Just stop. It's not getting us anywhere constructive. It's only destructive.
     
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    How dare you. You should be proud to die to make Trump look better. Don't you know your death will help to Make America Great Again.
     
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    From your own link: "
    "Leading disease forecasters whose research the White House used to conclude that a 100,000 to 240,000 people will die nationwide from the coronavirus were mystified when they saw the administration's projection this week." Why! (laughing) The administration's simply relying on this modeling data. So why were the modelers, why were the disease forecasters "mystified" when they saw the administration use the number?

    "The experts said they don't challenge the number's validity, but they don't know how the White House arrived at them." Do you see what's happening here, folks? They give the administration these numbers from the models, the administration uses them, and now the modelers come back and say: What's the White House doing? We don't think these numbers are..."
     
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    I was told that VERBATIM on another forum. LITERALLY, to my virtual face. But they left out help.
     
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    Trump took the high end. the one that DIDNT have mitigation factors. Thus, they were mystified.

    AND, Trump didn't consult them when he ANNOUNCED IT.
     
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    Duh..I'm allergic to penicillin therefore penicillin is a danger to society....

    What a stupid stupid argument
     
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    Why should he have to consult them? He used their numbers. You need to read your own links. Also, as for public perception, there is little difference between 100,000 and 240,000. They are both either very large numbers or very small numbers depending on your viewpoint. 100,000 is twice as many that were killed in Vietnam and 240,000 is nearly five times.

    The other viewpoint is that my chances of being killed with 100,000 is only one out of 3300 and my chances with 240,000 is only one out of 1375. Both pretty good odds in my favor.
     
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    Were they being serious? Trumpers are unbelievable, not only should we bend over and grab our ankles but we should send them thank you notes for saving the taxpayer dollar by not using Vaseline.
     
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    No, they were referring to those that are disabled. When we are DEAD, less folks they have to pay for. They wished us ALL to drop dead.
     
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    Welcome to socialist healthcare
     
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    I have never heard a democrat wish folks dead, or any of the other nasty things right wingers do and say.
     
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    On one of the other threads, a democrat was wishing that "Trumpers" caught the virus.
     
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    You hear what you want to hear, and I'm not being flippant. See my first post in this thread. You've constructed this narrative in your head that Trump has to have some sort of evil motive to do and say the things he does and says, and so you plug everything you hear into that narrative.

    To those of us that don't subscribe to your narrative, your interpretation of the facts are obvious. You aren't in his head. He's in yours. Therefore your description of this so called "scheme" is a plot that you hatched. It bears zero connection to what's actually going on in his head. That's something that neither of us can know for sure.

    The reality is that we are faced with a challenge that no one knows for sure how to deal with. People have opinions. They have strategies and two different people can promote those exact same strategies and you, as a human that reacts exactly the same way as all humans do, would interpret the motive to enact those strategies completely differently. You'd ascribe an intent that you invented to keep your narratives about those people intact. It's human psychology you're fighting with, not some conspiracy to put you in the ground.
     
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    I had a cousin who screwed everyone he met, and manipulated them. Did irreparable harm to dozens if not hundreds. When I heard he died, I said GOOD, now he cannot harm anyone else.

    Having republicans, particularly the ones that are cult members, saying it is all a hoax, if they changed their idiotic tune could save hundreds of thousands, or millions.
     
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    Trump NEVER commited a selfless act in his ENTIRE life.
     
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    I thought it was conservatives that were supposed to see everything in black and white.
     
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    if it's so safe why is Trump not taking it? lead by example.....

    Trump says he may take it, sure, like he may testify under oath
     
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    You could reverse all democrat and republican labels and make just as much sense.
     
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