Why was the 2009 pandemic not taken ANYWHERE NEAR as seriously as COVID-19?

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    No he called it a DEMOCRATIC hoax, only conspiracy theorists call the media Democratic.
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Ah. So you admit to being a liar. Guess that means you recommend that other posters ignore your posts. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    So then you acknowledge that hand washing WAS promoted during swine flu. I thought you were saying that it wasn't and the reason that it wasn't is because it "originated in Mexico, a source of Democrat voters."
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure how this means that he told the CDC to stop working on coronavirus.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't answer the question: why is it up to Trump to execute the promotion of CDC guidelines.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why was the 2009 pandemic not taken ANYWHERE NEAR as seriously as COVID-19?

    ~ Because Donald J. Trump was not the President.
     
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    Exactly. Thx for wrapping it up so nicely. :)

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    #1
    Trump wasn't US President ... means no incompetent jerk and liar was playing US President as now ... who, as the person responsible, downplayed the whole thing, denied it and blamed everyone else, just not his own inability and ignorance

    #2
    The devilish thing about COVID-19 is not the disease itself, because it is not really more dangerous than violent influenza. It is the long infection period. If you are infected by someone today, the disease will only break in about 10 to 14 days. In these 10 to 14 days you are fine, you do not notice anything of your infection, but in the whole time you can infect many other people!

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    COVID-19 is particularly dangerous for older people, people with a weakened immune system and / or a previous illness prone to it.
    The care of the sick is then the token by which the health system of a country is measured. This also includes how well or badly you are prepared for something like this.

    With us in Germany it was here and there in addition to various individual cases, especially a couple in the west of Germany, which had infected themself by someone from Italy, whereby the husband also had a serious previous illness. In these 10 to 14 days you they attended also at a big party with over 300 people and from there the virus started to spread in Germany.
    Then there were also many who came back from skiing in the Italian Alps, e.g. also students who came home after the outbreak in Italy because the universities were closed. In total, as of this morning we have over 100,000 infected, 2,016 dead and over 30,000 healed!
     
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    Trump does not have to take responsibility for anything he does not like to take responsibility for.

     
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    the concerns of the dems and media were not a hoax, Trump saying it was going from 15 to zero was sadly a hoax
     
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    that is a strawman, no one said he told the cdc to stop working on it, he just played it down in the beginning, same as China did

    luckily the experts are trying to do their jobs despite Trump

    Trump just got rid of people reporting on what is needed by hospitals because he did not like the way the report looked, and he took it as showing he was a failure, he has a fragile ego and that is a problem - he could of looked at the report and worked to fix it instead, that is what the report was for, to show areas that need work, if you fire anyone that tells the truth, you can't address the issues were facing
     
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    Do we know what happened after the 1700 death mark?
     
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    And what did his downplaying result in?

    You appear to be one of the few honest people on the left who acknowledge that the EVIL, HUMAN WASTE, SCUM, Chinese government covered it up. Good for you. Hopefully you are as disgusted as we are at those on your side who have turned a blind eye to this.

    Exactly! The experts are the only ones who matter!

    Who are these folk that he "got rid of?"

    What report?
     
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    Trump's downplaying it caused people not to take it seriously early on

    yes, both China and Trump downplayed the virus early on... not good

    the HHS watchdog and the one looking over the stimulus spending I heard

    "Trump Slams Watchdog Report on Hospitals Engulfed by Coronavirus"

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...-supply-shortages-testing-challenges/2341423/

    "President Donald Trump on Monday disputed the veracity of a federal survey that found hospitals faced severe shortages of coronavirus test supplies, questioning whether its conclusions were skewed by politics."

    Everyone knows the report is true, Trump needs to take the report seriously and try to address the issue's best he can, not pretend they do not exist
     
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    Yes, but unless you restrict travel to the country of origin and restrict the border to essential traffic only, the virus will spread Ad nauseam.
     
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    So people were still able to travel from Mexico to the US during the swine flu?
     
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    Unrestricted from what I know.
     
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    Do have any evidence to support this, or is it just your baseless assumption?

    Forget downplaying, you do realise that China COVERED IT UP back in December by suppressing experts don't you?

    Okay, so trump "slammed" the Watchdog. You said that he "got rid of people." Did you mean to say that?
     
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    trump is blaming his delays on China.... so either he was lying again about their being delays or he is not

    do you believe Trump?

    you can't have it both ways, either you believe there was delays or you don't

    either Trump believed China or his own experts - which is it?

    he got rid of the watchdog looking over the stimulus, not sure if he got rid of the one that wrote the report, I could be wrong on that one

    regardless, the report on the hospitals being short on supplies was factual, him attacking her for it... is crazy - his job is to review the report and try to address it, not try to cover it up and create his own reality, that is what North Korea does with their state run tv

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    What lies about their being delays are you referring to?

    Believe them in what?

    Is this mentioned in the NBCLA article that you posted? I saw no mention of it. Normally when Trump fires someone, it makes the headlines! Not merely something buried inside an article.

    Correct.
     
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    What measures did Obama take that Trump hasn't taken?
     
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    Trump is blaming China for his not responding soon enough

    the evidence now Proves the white house knew the seriousness of this in December or January

    Trump downplayed it, lied to the American people, did not stock supplies to prepare for it

    I did not say he fired him, I said he got rid of him, the watchdog is no longer looking over the stimulus
     
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    Obama let the experts know the truth and let them handle it from the beginning, that is what Trump should have done

    Trump never should have made this about himself and attacked anyone that told the truth, calling their concerns a hoax

    when Trump told Pence to handle it, Pence did what should have been done by Trump - course then Pence looked more Presidential than Trump and was getting more attention than Trump, Trump could not have that
     
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