What if they declare martial law?

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Would you be willing to live under martial law?

  1. Yes.

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    29.4%
  2. No.

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    41.2%
  3. Depends on what the restrictions are.

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    How many of us would be willing to live under martial law until this corona virus emergency is over?
    If living under martial law would help us get over this situation faster, would you do it?
    Please state either why or why not.
     
  2. Capt Nice

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    How would martial law differ from what we're doing now? Other than the lack of military what would be different?
     
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    I can think of a number of things.

    Right now, if I want to get in my car and drive around town I can do that. No one is going to stop me. That could be a lot different under martial law. I can go to any business establishment I choose, so long as they're open. I can still get on a plane and fly across the country. I suspect those things, too, wouldn't be permissible if we were under martial law.

    I don't relish the premise of the military being in charge. I love the military. I love it so much I spent 20 years in uniform. But I don't think they should be running the show on American soil.

    When I think of martial law, I think of Tianamen Square or Poland in 1981. I'd just rather not see those repeat themselves here...
     
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    I think the conception of martial law is that it is cruel but I don't think that cruelty is a requirement. If the laws being enforced are for the benefit of the community I wouldn't have a problem.
     
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    Once martial law is declared it's pointless to argue with the soldier carrying an M-16. They have their orders, which they will carry out, and they will not get bogged down in arguments or opinions.

    Willing or unwilling, people have to live with it or pay the price for stupidity.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would we need to? The military are not the people for this. I can see calling up the national guard if civilians start refusing to deliver food and essentials. Someone would have do it. If the problem was due rampant disregard for the lockdown it might be better to reassess the strategy...
     
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    Unless martial law was found to be unconstitutional you'd be crazy not to follow it. Who here thinks they are above the Constitution? Not I.

    "In the United States, there is precedent for martial law. Several times in the course of our history, martial law of varying degrees has been declared. The most obvious and often-cited example was when President Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War. This instance provides us with most of the rules for martial law that we would use today, should the need arise."

    https://usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html
     
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    1) They could legally force us to obey a curfew or quarantine ourselves.
    2) They could force us to turn in our guns if they thought it necessary.
     
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    Thank you for that link. It's very informative.
     
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    I don't want the military in control of everything. I could see the potential for having national guard stationed outside grocery stores to keep the peace. But
    1. We aren't there yet
    2. I don't want the government controlling my movements or who i associate with in my own community
    3. Restricting interstate travel not to last longer than 4 months. No extensions of any kind no matter what..
     
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    The US military cannot enforce marital law across the US.
     
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    I'm more afraid of democtic law makers than i am of the vastly Republican military.

    Democrats want to pass unconstitutional laws i fully expect our military and law enforcement to shield uf from those laws by force of arms against the government.
     
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    I voted depends.

    A few weeks of martial law enforced in high risk areas during a real emergency is what martial law is designed for. Enacted long term nationwide will not be tolerated.

    Arguably, we are already in martial law (lite). Sequestering infected people against their will isn't constitutional, but is happening right now, and so long as a large majority view it as necessary and justified, it will not be substantially resisted.
     
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    i'm rather ashamed of what seems to be a majority of the posters here. to begin with, the third option is an illusion. martial law is martial law, not a limited reaction or merely necessary regulation. for those of you who don't know, martial law is the suspension of your civil rights. freedom of assembly - gone. freedom of speech - gone. due process - gone. all of those simple liberties that you have taken for granted for so long - gone. martial law is open ended. in other words, it lasts as long as the powers that be feel it needs to last. the power of martial law, like expanded taxes, is something that is far easier to hand over to authority than it is to take back.

    your liberties are not something to be taken for granted. government is not your friend, its job is to reduce and control your liberties for the sake of others and for the sake of their own power. liberty is not safe. if you want the illusion of security, then move your ass to a nice safe police state and relax in the inevitable poverty, absence of choice and high degree of probability that you too will be incarcerated as an "enemy of the state".
     
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    Unless and until retail (minus grocery stores) are shut down, this will continue to roll through states. Even grocery stores could create jobs by beefing up their delivery services. I am not fearful in the least of martial law - it sounds ominous, but it is simply locking people on their own properties for their own good. And for the good of their community/city/state/country.
     
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    And a great way to demonstrate that the US government does not have anywhere near the power some people think it does - and some other people think it should.
     
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    that any american could actually think this way is truly frightening to me. i think a brief review of history is in order for some people.
     

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