Kushner-backed program chartering flights to address hospital shortages raises questions in Congress

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  1. david gullikson

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    But the supplies on board weren’t tucked into the national stockpile or distributed by the federal government among cities hardest hit by novel coronavirus despite the average taxpayer bill of $750,000 to $800,000 per flight.

    Instead, the masks and other life-saving equipment were owned by Medline, one of the nation’s largest privately held manufacturers and distributors of medical supplies. They were loaded onto cargo trucks and driven to the company’s warehouse in suburban Chicago.

    It was up to Medline to decide who gets the protective gear and what price they would pay.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kus...hts-medical-supplies-behalf/story?id=70291872
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    Here is the Trump doctrine, in a NUTshell. Taxpayers do all the work, then it is turned over to vultures that prove how great free enterprise is, FOR THE CORPORATION. We get didly.

    Trump and all the fools he hired, and spawned, believe that you don't deserve a functional government, and certainly not one without a profit motive in EVERY instance.

    Just like how WE the taxpayer develop all the drugs and tech, only to have it turned over to corps, to patent and fleece us with, we are paying twice. But don't worry your pretty little head, Kushner is working for FREE, Ivanka too, sons too. Well they are paying the sons concubines and mistresses. But FREE, cheap at any price, Trump too. So, any fleecing is compensated by the FREE labor we are getting from the whole selfless clan.

    Just like any huckster, the pitch starts off with FREE. Only later do you understand what it will cost.
     
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    Ayuh,..... You've got that backwards,.......
     
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    Sorry David but another nothingburger but I do like Fredo's brother's first line in the video. NY screamed ventilators, ventilators, ventilators for a week. Fact is, they are awash in ventilators and have far more than they need. Not to mention a fully equipped hospital ship and makeshift hospitals that went totally unused.
     
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    SO WHAT, the ventilators were FIRST up in ny, then sent on to the next hotspot. That is what REPONSIBLE gov would do.

    That hospital ship would have treated hangnails, cept someone screwed up, and let a covid patient onboard, so, already polluted, and bad press, get to work, might as well.
     
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    BAsic research, is taxpayer funded, then, it is turned over to the corp most capable of turning it into a patentable product, Unc sam washes his hands of it all.
     
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    David, let me brighten your day. No ventilators but you can watch in real time. More fun than typing in all caps.
    Still waiting for the Chinese virus to show it's head on the list but if you watch long enough......

    https://deathmeters.info/
     
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    What an APPETIZING list, as Dr Oz would say. But it would be more appetizing if it broke it down by age. Children to be exact.

    What supplies the feds don't outright steal, they give to vultures, to then boost the price on. It is all about making a buck.
     
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    I'm happy that the ventilator situation has been resolved. I'm hoping that the PPE shortages will be resolved quickly. But I'm not happy about taxpayers footing the bill for private companies to import PPE equipment and then sell the equipment to hospitals. Why are we paying for the freight to be delivered to their warehouses?
     
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    We still have to resolve whether they are then blackballing blue states and governors, AS TRUMP COMMANDED.
     
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    Trump said, plain as day, WE ARE NOT SHIPPING CLERKS, as an excuse for being worthless. NOW, they are PRECISELY shipping clerks.
     
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    That's where you and I will part ways, David. I respect your right to your opinion, but to muddy the waters of this issue with Trump slagging is how we see threads derailed. The issue, on its own, has great merit for discussion. No need to throw Trump into the equation.
     
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    YEs, but after the gov shuttles the stuff, then it is distributed to WHOMEVER they choose. HOW that is done MATTERS. A senator has accused Trump of blackballing blue states, and inadequately submissive Governors. I want to know my state is getting what is right.
     
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    Hell hath frozen over as I totally agree with you.
    This forum needs to have an entire section consolidated to only bashing the president. No other topics allowed. I could name a dozen posters who would revel is such an opportunity as opposed to having to sneak them into everything they now post.
    That said, look for ventilators for sale on eBay
     
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    Trump has made this whole nation about him, every action, every opinion, every possible thing, ABOUT HIM. He is a megalomaniac, so it is no surprise, that since he made it all about him, he will feature in all the antics he pulls.
     
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    I'll make you a deal - I will happily keep Trump bashing out of any threads that are not specifically about him if you don't post any whataboutisms regarding Biden or Obama or Pelosi.
     
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    Nope,..... Yer still very wrong,...... way out in left field, pretty much outa the park,......
     
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    Prove it.

    Taxpayers — not Big Pharma — have funded the research behind every new drug since 2010
    The problem wasn’t a tax hike or new regulations: the problem was that the budget included deep cuts to the budget of the National Institutes of Health.

    If those cuts had gone through, they would have exposed one of the biggest lies told about Big Pharma: that the current system of patents and price-gouging is just an unfortunate necessity to cover the cost of all their brave and noble R&D work.
    https://other98.com/taxpayers-fund-pharma-research-development/
     
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    Actually, David, it is the lefties that have made it all about Trump. If they would calm down, stay off the caps lock, turn off Rachel Mancow, and go for long walks, life might become somewhat enjoyable.
     
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    Ayuh,...... Educate yerself, that's not my job,.....

    The government, at best, pays corporations to do work, for the government,.......
     
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