Do Theists want to debate or preach?

Certainly hence why some have compared religion to a drug.

 

I'm well aware of your attitude and "debate" tactics. Suffice it to say that I disagree with your assessment.

 

Interesting I always thought a glass without water was evidence it is not full of water

 

that is so nosequitur its out of this solar system.

 

I drive to the core of the argument and dont often sucker for strawman arguments as they are constantly thrown at me. I suppose you can spin that as a negative, but I see it as a positive for cutting through all the **** to get to the bottom of an issue.

 

Who told you that?

 

You do not understand when lack of evidence can be a proof and in many cases such as the glass of water it can be a proof.

 

I dont recall falling for any strawmen recently, are you trying to make some kind of obscure point here?

 

You have no evidence God does not exist therefore your belief is 'purely' based in faith. You cant stick your finger in the moon or fly up to alpha centuri and say yep no G/god(s) here, or can you?.

Define God.

So we know what we are looking for in the first place? G/god might be in your empty glass?

 

If you think anything in science militates against the existence of God, I can hardly wait to see the specifics.

You figure that's the only area in which false beliefs can lead to mischief?

Which is exactly what Christ did to the pharisees. You think He did wrong?

I'm not results oriented. If you believe a lie and I'm able to sow doubt about it in your mind, I may never see it bloom; but if I do it right, and you take it right, it's a win-win deal anyway, no?

 

No I just wondered who played such a cruel joke on you!

 

Most theists on this forum will not be doing either preaching or debating 'God's existence on this forum or anywhere else. they will just keep believing. A lot of atheists/ agnostics won't be doing either as well. They will just keep not believing and not knowing. Its amazing how a lot of folks think that whole debate/preach thing is a tired futile drama, they just don't need. They would far rather debate or discuss politics or their respective views on cranberry sauce or hunting.

I am an agnostic atheist that has no intention allowing that agenda driven toxin on either side, to smother me.

By and large, let theists be theists. Let agnostics be agnostics. Let atheists be atheists. I just worry when each side tries to promote their respective stereotypes and narratives at the others expense. I see that as promoting bigotry and that pisses me off.

 

Reasons vary but to me the concern with religion and the desire to debate religious claims is the damage religion does to individuals and to society.

 

You apparently perceive debunking of your arguments as strawman arguments. You like to argue that atheists are somehow religious, that atheism is somehow equal to theism, that a non-belief in deities is the same as a belief in deities. It's an absurd argument and you don't substantiate it very well. Pointing to some legal protection for atheists that operates within the same framework as protection for religious groups, for example, doesn't make atheism a religion, but I've seen you try that argument.

 

Atheism and theism are two sides of different coins. One is a nickel, the other a dime, but neither is a credit card. Neither a big enough deal to toss your room or car for.

 

Here is a perfect example of the sort of post I find extraordinary I have never seen anything like it until I started posting here,

I think you are deflecting but I do not understand why, if I am wrong about the evidence you provided surely it would just be simpler to point it out?

This thread is not about providing you evidence of anything except the obvious. You want to hijack every thread because YOU are the one deflecting. The OP is a question that puts you on the defensive. So, rather than to keep to that issue, you want to rehash the same crap that is on this board day after day AND where atheists outnumber believers... as has been established. So, you want to hijack this thread and make it into the same old B.S. ambush you do every day in your quest to silence believers with mob rule and bias confirmation. I simply refuse to engage in that conversation. This thread has its own topic. I have no obligation to debate you about an off topic issue just so you can avoid scrutiny.

The fact that you cannot address shows the ***** in your armor. The reality is, you are scared. If I'm holding a Royal Flush and you've been bluffing about the lack of scientific evidence disproving creation science, you want to see it so that you have a popularity contest and claim that a spade isn't a spade and a pair of twos beats a Royal Flush. That seems to work every day when you're the majority, but when we start asking the really hard questions, we see what lies at the heart of your real objections to people having the Right to believe. You live in fear and you want to force the rest of us to be beaten down and deny their God so that you can feel superior. But, the reality is, you only concentrate on one religion and one God - not because you don't believe in God, but quite the opposite. The only way you "win" is to hijack serious threads that are critical of your true motives and use it for the daily popularity contest. In doing so, you lose any pretend debate by default. You are the one deflecting. You are the one who is living in fear. You're allowing your religion to drive you nuts. How much time are you spending to act like you're trying to debate and convince me? What you are really doing is posting out of fear. Deny it. Use your numbers to bolster your claims to the contrary. You're afraid and you cannot afford to let me hold my opinion that I choose not to share in a topic that isn't all about your agenda.