WaPo editorial board calls for Biden to address Tara Reade allegations

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    In the editorial, the board says there are “no clear conclusions” regarding the accuracy of Reade’s account, but notes that the 1,875 boxes and 415 gigabytes of Senatorial records, which were donated to the University of Delaware in 2012, could confirm whether or not Reade filed a complaint over the alleged incident.

    Examining the documents, the editorial board states, would not necessarily indicate belief or disbelief in Reade’s claims, but rather “a desire for the public to know all that’s able to be known, which ought to be in everyone’s interest.”


    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...l-board-calls-for-biden-to-address-tara-reade

    Let's make these records public.

    Let's get everything out in the open.

    If Biden is losing the WaPo, this is not good.

    The RW has grasped onto these Senate Records like a pitbull that won't let go.

    Let's see the records.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Yah I’m sure there’s a memo titled: fingered chick in hallway
    Wtf are in these senatorial records that they think will shine any light?
     
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    Even though:

    "None of this means Biden is guilty. But it does mean the presumptive Democratic nominee should unseal his Senate papers so that the public has a better chance of finding out.

    In 2012, Biden delivered 1,875 boxes of “photographs, documents, videotapes, and files” and 415 gigabytes of electronic records to his alma mater, the University of Delaware. They covered his entire 36-year Senate career. At the time, the university said it expected to make the papers “available to the public two years after Biden’s last day in elected public office.” Biden left the vice presidency in January 2017, and January 2019 came and went with no papers released. Then, on April 24, 2019, the day before Biden announced his presidential campaign, the university revised the schedule. The papers would now remain sealed until December 31, 2019, or until two years after Biden “retires from public life,” whichever came later. That means Americans likely won’t learn what’s in his papers before they vote for president this fall.
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    Apparently, the RW has latched onto these records as some sort of smoking gun.

    Some sort of "Mass Conspiracy/What is Biden hiding" thing.
     
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    It's disturbing for political reasons. The Washington Post is the DNC's go-to daily political newspaper. If the Washington Post is turning on Joe then that means that the DNC is not all that wedded to a Biden presidential nomination after all . . . since the WPO editors won't even wipe their rumps without a go-ahead from the DNC. This in turns guarantees that the convention -- whether real or virtual -- is going to be fascinating.
     
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    In any event, these records have now jumped the shark into "Streisand Effect" territory.
     
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    Bezos is as much the CIA's butt monkey as the DNC's, so this means that both are uneasy with the Democrat's worst choice for a nominee since, well, 2016 and Hillary.

    Their problem is that they need to deal with Bernie whom they just cheated aside (once again & once again with Obama's sleazy assistance) to get Cuomo or Kamala "Hillary 2.0" Harris into the nomination.

    They say cheaters never prosper, and for the DNC, this may FINALLY prove true.

    No matter what, I don't see Trump losing in November, even if civil war breaks out.
     
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    Well, to be fair, she does claim she filed a complaint at the time, with the office manager in Biden's senate office, Marianne Baker.

    Of course, it's perfectly possible and likely that her complaint got tossed in the trash can.
    Marianne Baker now claims that Reade never filed a complaint.
     
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    I am skeptical. Not to pick on women or the Irish, but similar scenes were once found in many an Irish bar on Friday nights. Could be a person seeking Andy Warhol's "15 minutes of fame," or a true story. If the latter...it's a rough and tumble world, which the "Me Too Movement" has bettered. But, it is difficult to find anyone who has risen to prominence in anything, without being able to point to a few blemishes. In the next generation, OK. In this one, just another example of old White guys hanging around a bit too long. Twenty-five years ago...was a generation ago.
     
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    The fact is, Reade claimed there was a call, but for a long time they could not find the specific show.

    In interviews with The Intercept, Reade also mentioned that her mother had made a phone call to “Larry King Live” on CNN, during which she made reference to her daughter’s experience on Capitol Hill. Reade told The Intercept that her mother called in asking for advice after Reade, then in her 20s, left Biden’s office. “I remember it being an anonymous call and her saying my daughter was sexually harassed and retaliated against and fired, where can she go for help? I was mortified,” Reade told me.

    Reade couldn’t remember the date or the year of the phone call, and King didn’t include the names of callers on his show. I was unable to find the call, but mentioned it in an interview with Katie Halper, the podcast host who first aired Reade’s allegation. After the podcast aired, a listener managed to find the call and sent it to The Intercept.​

    For this to be faked, the journalists The Intercept would have to be lying.


    Also Larry King said on the show that the call was coming from San Luis Obispo, where Reade's mother was living at the time.
    That would be too much of a coincidence for them to try to just make this up.
     
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    This is prime opportunity for the DNC to save face. Word Jumble Joe is going to be a debate catastrophe. This is the DNC's chance to drop him like a hot, demented turd and 'surprise' us with a new Dem savior.

    Who will it be?

    It will be Hillary.
     
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    Release the records Quid Pro Joe...what’s he hiding?! What else is in them?
     
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    Lmao are we afraid he’ll tell people to drink bleach or be unable to say the word origin?
     
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    I have difficulty believing that.
     
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    Trumps taxes, so he better keep them hidden
     
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    I dunno . . . throughout most of Trump's first term the chanting from the Left has been . . . "Investigate EVERYTHING!" It's sort of sleazy at this point to say, "Investigate EVERYTHING . . . except anything of Joe Biden's!" People notice when an entire political party tries to ram an exception like that sideways down a nation's gagging throat. Something about hypocricy and blatant political double-standards making people angry, or so I understand."
     
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    You think trumps 1040 somehow is the same as Biden sexual assaulting someone?
     
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    I hope you're right!
     
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    I agree, it proves nothing. But it is strongly circumstantial evidence.

    It basically sets a time stamp that Reade complained a long time ago, long before Biden was ever Vice President or running for President.

    The call also does nothing to confirm Reade's details of encounter, but does strongly suggest there was some form of sexual harassment from the then-Senator.
     
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    Would seem to support her story...but we'd need to investigate it further. Remember, Bad Boy Clinton was elected in 1992. Joe had been elected to his fourth term as a U.S. Senator. And, according to Wikipedia, the Balkan wars were going on, with Biden calling for NATO intervention and the prosecution of war criminals. Something, he apparently later called "the proudest moment in his public life." With young female staffers...maybe not so much. I am inclined to forgive and forget, unless a wider pattern of abuses is established (something say approaching the magnitude of Trump's own similar problems). Unfortunately, the choice in 2020 is going to be "the least imperfect" candidate...again. Not to begrudge people, such as Joe and Nancy Pelosi, their accomplishments, but it is symbolic of a flawed two-party system that allows them to overstay the time on the stage. Bush Junior basically destroyed the Republican Party (largely completely innocently), but has grown wiser and more mellow since he left the Presidency. But, leaving us with a recession and two foreign wars, virtually eliminated the "old Republican Guard," fracturing the party between them and eager multi-billionaires eager to steer the Party to the radical Right. The Wisconsin trifecta (Walker, Ryan and Priebus) wasn't nearly experienced or wise enough to carry the day and Trump's "bluff" and attacks made the 2016 primaries look more like a high school cafeteria food fight than a campaign for the Presidential nomination. Not much left of the Republican Party or its traditional values...it's an authoritarian Trump Party now...largely about no ideology at all...only Presidential Power. Curiously, it was the Democrats, who in the twentieth century, pressed more for an imperial presidency than Republicans (see "Presidential Power," by Richard Neustadt, 1960).
     
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    Likely there's not much else to investigate.

    (unless you are referring to verifying that the story in the article is true)
     
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    No I think it’s the same as his senate papers.
     

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