A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Good point.... I was just thinking of how he stomped his elephantine foot on the scales of justice behind the scenes yesterday. Nothing to prevent him from putting pressure on the governor (if that is even needed).
     
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    At the time of the shooting they were not. The shooters were approached by the victim. The scenario is actually quite legally complex.
     
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    Yes a big part of this issue appears to be whether citizens have a legal right to defend their neighborhood or if that should be left completely to the police. It appears to be a matter of local law and in this case whether this father and son and had enough reasonable suspicion to confront this individual.
     
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    Doubt it but maybe. It's going to be argued that the shooters had no possible way of knowing they would be irrationally attacked. In fact it would be safe to assume that the opposite would be true because they were armed.
     
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    That generally requires premeditation and I don't think any but the most crazed would think that these two had any idea that this would end in a death.
     
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    Again, racist drivel.

    Show me the video of some Black men chasing down a White man innocently going about his business and murdering him in the street and...

    I certainly won't be able to show you the outrage because those Black men would have been arrested on Day 1 and never seen the light of day again.

    And this "I laugh at how quickly Black people are willing to scream Racism and I counter their BS by calling them Racists, since I know a lot of them truly Hate White People, hense Racism on their part."

    Proves the racist line.
    How many White people have you seen dragged to death on the back of a pickup for being White?
    How many White people have you seen lynched for being White?
    During these recent White 'protests' how many of them were teargassed? Beaten with clubs? Attacked with hoses?

    What? NONE?

    Sorry, your White privilege is showing AGAIN!
     
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    You don’t punch someone with a gun
    You have to control the weapon and get it off line
     
  8. superbadbrutha

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    What the hell are you talking about, they had caught up with him when the encounter happened.
     
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    So you think you chase a man down with guns he may not try to defend himself, come on man I know you are smarter than that.
     
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    What were they defending the neighborhood from? A black man jogging through it.
     
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    Clue to what?
     
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    I studied the Zimmerman case. He is innocent and the jury agrees.
     
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    The jury agreed that Roy Bryant and JW Milam were innocent to.
     
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    Possibly. But when he avoided them the first time, they should have dropped it and just followed him....they didn't. And when he tried to avoid them the second time after they exited their truck with guns, they should have let it go. But again they didn't. Instead, the guy with the shotgun moved probably fifteen feet to the right to cut him off as he attempted to avoid them. That's when he lunged for the gun and his end began. They forced him to either comply or resist. Michael Brown stole cigars from a convenience store. Then he assaulted the Officer who stopped to question him. Then he ran away. Then he came back towards the Officer in an aggressive manner and was shot. This is way different from Arbery who was doing nothing wrong, who was trying to avoid conflict until he was forced by armed men who weren't Officers to defend himself and his right to move about freely on public right of way. If those men had left their guns at home and let the Police handle it, this probably wouldn't have happened.
     
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    Of course. That's the benchmark in American civil society. Where are you from?
     
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    Watch the video. Ahmaud ran up behind their parked vehicle, ran around the passenger side and around the open driver side door to attack the guy with the shotgun. He could have simply kept running but he didnt. That's the problem. His decision to violently attack a guy holding a shotgun, having to run around the truck and back to do so is where this case becomes something very legally muddy.
     
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    Defend himself how exactly? He brought a fist to a gun fight. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
     
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    So what?
     
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    so a white community should have the right to defend itself with force, against a black intruder?

    huh..
     
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    Murder. Anytime you are thinking about using your firearm, please do yourself and everyone else a huge favor and stop and think about it for one second before squeezing the trigger.
     
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    Sounds like you are either seeing what you want to see, or just saw a clip and not the whole video.
     
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    So it's OK to lynch white people but not black people now.................geeezzzz.
     
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    someday black men will be treated like human beings, and not criminals
     
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    That's absolutely not what happened.

    Ahmaud can be seen jogging in the video. His gait is not that of someone who's chasing or running away from anything or anyone. He was trying to mind his own business.

    The truck stopped and Travis McMichael exited the vehicle and stood on the driver's side of the vehicle. Ahmaud ran to the passenger side to pass the truck. He didn't "dart" to one side or another. He maintained his pace and simply changed direction. McMichael can be seen moving from the driver's side to the front of the truck and confronted Ahmaud. That confrontation then moved towards the driver's side.

    That this case is betting another look is a good thing. The arrest of the McMichael's is a good thing. It's disturbing to think that, even in that bastion of racial harmony that is southern Georgia, something so heinous can occur and that local authorities would turn the other cheek.

    As a middle aged, conservative-voting, gun carrying flag waver, this offends me...
     
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    how often does this happen to white joggers?
     

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