How much more of the virus hoax can you take

Where did I object? I believe we need to be helping those who have lost their jobs.

 

Of course your Covid numbers are what happened with the social distancing. Without, those numbers are estimated to reach over 2 million deaths which would also have a devastating effect on our economy.

This first round, up until recently, the people have been pretty good about social distancing. The fear now should be the resistance it will get when round 2 hits in the fall. People should be planning on how to prevent the next shut down by preparing now with measures in anticipation of it.
Take restaurants. Remodel to provide security between tables, a series of drapes that can be reconfigured to allow larger table groupings for example with rules that bus boys wipe everything with sanitizers. The kitchens already do. That's better than closing.

Get imaginative. Theaters could not just require masks but could hand them out with their logo or other publicity on them.
Sports events should do the same, give out team logo masks. People will accept them faster than plain white ones. I bet they'll become collectibles as well.

There's a thousand things that could be done now to prepare for then and then won't be so nearly as devastating.

Most important though is testing testing and more testing. And when you finish with that test some more.

 

I don't know what the facts on that respect are at the moment. I do know one thing: fact provides references, links, evidence... You (typical of Fox echo-chamber fans) don't.

 

Good thing Trump saved all those lives, eh?

2 million = 0.6% of our population .
Current testing indicates about 15.7% of the population has, or had, the virus; this works out to a death rate of 0.14%
The actual death rate is likely smaller as a considerable portion of the testing was of people with appropriate symptoms.

At 0.14% death rate, and everyone gets it, that's ~450k people.

 

Yes! Because Covid-19 looks up the party affiliation of people it infects.

But that's not what I wanted to explain. I wanted to clarify a previous statement I made. I said I don't respond to dumb posts that make wild nonsensical statements in which the poster doesn't even bother to show a reference. I should clarify that I only respond to those when I can think of a way to make fun of them.

 

Ok, we have tested every American fifty times per day and during the dark of night, a handful of illegals cross the border from Canada into the US and make their way to a large city. By the time you get up, they could infect thousands.
Does anybody understand all the testing in the world is only as good as the last person tested?
Protect the vulnerable as best you can and to the rest, If you want to actually diminish the effect any virus has on your body, you better develop antibodies through a stronger immune system.
We can talk about the common cold and it's likely morphing over the centuries another time.

 

No, but it does respond to people who don't take proper precautions and in California and New York democratic politicians made stupid comments up front about how the virus was not a big deal. The fact remains, that without the blue states, the virus infections in the US would have been among the lowest in the world.

 

Trump was the only one to take action while the fake Soviet Gov did zero

 

They should be in lockdown not me

 

The cat is out of the bag--once infected, the odds are extremely high that you will live, and of course very low that you will die.

Survival of the fittest is in action as we type.

 

No offense but all that means is, it will take longer to infect everybody which is how our bodies develop natural antibodies to this gift from the Chinese communist party.

 

I'm completely aghast! Are you guys serious? I thought this was some sort of sick joke. But it looks like so many Trump supporters do believe that part of the population is "dispensable".

I swear!.. I did believe it was a joke. Considering the "dispensable" ones are are, in large part, in the demographics that supports Trump. That should lose quite a few votes for Trump. Not just because they die. But because they might not like the idea of being considered "dispensable". But then again.... we know most of them would still be loyal to Trump even if he stood in the middle of the street and shot someone. Will they still be loyal if they're the ones being shot at? This will be phenomena for psychologists to study for decades to come.

And we thought that people that were so loyal to "kings" or "dictators" or to "the bad guy who wants to take over the world"... that they would give up their lives for them was something you only found in movies...

 

I think if the world's medical science professionals worked to collate their data together, we might have a better idea. Let's be real, there have been 250,000 deaths documented from this virus. Even with the possibility of attributing too many deaths to COVID-19, we would still have some data on the ages, and the preexisting health conditions of the people who have died.

 

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I think that once the data comes out, we will find that this virus is very selective. Even now, the numbers seem to suggest that people under 30 shake off this virus so quickly that they aren't even aware they were sick. Making their mortality rate into the 0.00x range. Meaning this virus is even less of a threat to young people than the common seasonal flu. For the people 40 years old to 30, this virus appears to be on par with the seasonal flu, and those in their 50s it's a little higher threat.

If those numbers hold true, than we were never going to see a million dead. Common sense tells us that we will be practicing mitigation, which means the flu will never kill as many as the the experts were predicting.

The elderly, and those with comorbidity will have to be very cautious until we come up with a vaccine. Even then, the vaccine is only for people with an immune system. AIDS and cancer patients may not even be able to take the vaccine. They will need to rely on the rest of us becoming immune, so that the virus never comes in contact with them.

 

it should be available, but I can say that the national media seems to focus more on the middle aged and/or younger that die more than the elderly and I watch the network news 5-6x a week along with the network morning show 5-6x a week, its pretty much doom and gloom for the entire broadcast.

However we did have another local death which was a big deal, repeated the story every broadcast for the entire day: he was 97 years old. We've had under 50 deaths in my area of over 1.2 million so they are covering each death in detail.

and they are pushing hard for a run on meat, every day they discuss the looming meat shortage, so far literally every kind of meat normally available at my store is out there on the shelf, despite that fact my local news had a big story yesterday about local butcher shops being in stock (and stores are not, which is false) then another big story about how to buy a half cow from a rancher.

Its a great idea to buy 700 pounds of beef I guess, but for now I'd rather just go to Publix and buy a NY strip for $8 and grill it. I really don't have a whole lot of experience thawing steaks to be honest, so the idea of a chest freezer chock full of frozen steaks just seems weird. with that said, my backup plan is pretty sketchy, 8 cans of tuna and 2 cans of chunk chicken

I could be biased but it seems like they really really want a run on meat big time.

 

Very few people should be in prison — it doesn’t work as a means of reform.
Most of them should be released on probation or executed.
The ones that remain should be required to work for their housing and care.

 

The news media is failing us.

Notice how there are few stories, if at all, on how businesses are implementing inventive and effective mitigation practices to do business while keeping the staff and customers as safe as possible. Instead, the most prevalent type of news story we see sensationalize the worst aspects of the doom and gloom aspects of this virus.

This is why we do not see the stories about how the under 30 crowd are able to fight off this virus with minimal problems. The news media seems loves to sensationalize. They love keeping us afraid, and glued to our TV sets, and they feed us more doom and gloom to keep us glued their. The media seem to want to convince everyone that we are all in as much peril from this virus as the infirmed 80 year olds in the nursing home.

It should be obvious to anyone paying attention, that if even after six weeks of lockdowns, if "numerous states are having their highest counts now," then the lockdowns aren't prevent anything. The lockdowns are nothing but a mitigation practice. So if we do open up our economy, while still observing mitigation practices, we will all be much better off six months from now.

 

They understand it quite well. They are demonstrating against that power.

 

There's good news out there. Pickup trucks are selling well, only 1% less than before the dempanic. My neighbor just bought a new GMC. The engine turns off at a redlight and restarts automatically when the light turns green. It's a beautiful truck. No I didn't ask. You never ask anybody how much their truck cost, or what their salary is. This economy is going to ramp up faster than people think.

 

Exactly, the most poignant statement I have heard on the virus was by a doctor talking about the two outcomes of care. He said something along the lines of: If we do a poor job containing and treating this we will be blamed for not doing our jobs; if we do a good job we will be told it was all a hoax”. Which is a sad but true perspective of the American populace.

Agreed, mask use is to protect others — if everyone utilized masks, practiced hand washing / sanitation and stopped touching their face this could be partially mitigated along with what business will be doing. All good ideas.

 

Ah and you and those you love cannot possibly be in any danger from those others who think just like you?

 

Exactly because I wont visit them

 

I’m
Kinda enjoying it now, seeing the virtue signalers wearing their little masks and going down the aisles in grocery store thinking hey are separated 6ft when in fact they’re 3ft from the shelves
and run into other shoppers going round the corner point blank range.

Then back to the car parked right next to other cars, and a person gets out that car about 1ft away ,, but hey hey ... we’re all in this together hey hey

about as sad and stupid as the Kook motto: “No Border, No Wall, No USA” at all hey hey

and .. Sanctuary Cities For criminals cause Nancy said they’re Gods children as she eats ice cream from the $24k refrigerator in her fenced and gated private estate protected by armed guards, whining about why no one needs guns except maybe a shot gun for shooting from the porch of Joe Biden’s estate.

 

In spite of him would be a better description. Everything he did was in response to others being proactive. His first move that he's so proud of? No Chinese coming came after Singapore Airlines banned them from their flights and other airlines joined in. The NBA and NCAA shut down before Trump suggested there even was a problem, he was still using "Move along. Nothing to see here folks."
After governors acted, after mayors acted, after private industry acted he reacted and claimed he was on top of things all along. Now that people are protesting he has now jumped on that band wagon and when infection rates rise again he'll say he was against the re-opening so soon.
Now is the time for preparing for the next wave this fall. He should be actively and aggressively encouraging people to come up with solutions not saying it's time to end the crisis by shutting down the task force and blocking information from the public.

In the time of a crisis the country needs a leader not a follower more concerned with his re-election than doing the job at hand.

 

NYT headline this a.m.: "Two White House Coronavirus Cases Raise Question of if Anyone Is Really Safe"

Grow up journos. Nobody is ever really safe anywhere. Take responsibility for yourself, do the best you can, be sure to wash your hands. The truth is nobody can do much, but do do what you can.

Still, maybe you gotta die if your number is called. Accept it. It's always been so, it's always gonna be so.