Chinese Navy Kicks Out US warship From Territorial Waters

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not from Australia. We celebrate Christmas in December here in Europe.
     
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    OK - Okay - I apologize - Civility was never one of my strong suites when dealing with
    ...............................................................................................................................Self Absorbed Alfred Hitch****'s :).

    The South China Sea is a problem that can be solved thorough Negotiations. -YOU Amerikinks
    should try them sometime ! - They work way better than throwing YOUR - overrated, overwrought
    Military
    Corpulence around. -And they Kill far less people, and smear far less Blood on YOU !
    .......................................................................................................................................... - BIG BONUS - ! :cheerleader:

    B
    ut If YOU feel you just have beat the S:icon_shithappens: t out of someone, best stick to some skinny little runt like
    ........... Nicaragua or maybe Grenada. One of the little guys, where there is some record of success.

    A
    nd with one of the little guys, there is no chance whatsoever of being Gang'd and getting YOUR
    .............................. NUTS handed to YOU in a Paper Bag :shock:. - Woo Wooo - BIG BIG BONUS ! - :clapping:


    BTW - It's Jell Pens, always was Jell Pens - Even before Jell Pens were Invented, it was Jell Pens
    ................................................................................... and THANX for the GOOD ADVICE - ✔ Keep smiling ... CHEERS !




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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, she would think the price is worth it as long as its not her grandchildren. Of course if it was her grandchildren, then they couldn't pass her genes down to others, so maybe it would be worth it. :oldman:

    I know when the war raged in Aleppo and Russia first entered the fray, the Russians couldn't understand why Americans weren't cutting off ISIS's money supply, and bomb the thousands of tanker trucks carrying Syria's stole oil from Raqqa to Turkey. Kerry's reply: "We don't want the drivers to suffer".

    And yet it was okay for American jets from Turkey to bomb electric plants and water purifying facilities in Aleppo. That way the people could suffer even more so - something that shocked the Russians. Well they were naïve then, they really thought we were in Syria to fight terrorists.:roflol:

    Anyway Kerry was getting his directives from Obama, that's why Lavrov said later on that Kerry was a good man, but Obama was evil.
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    I had already provided YOU with the requested Document BEFORE YOU even asked for it !
    B
    ut YOU where to involved in covering the bald Lies - that YOU speak for, with a fine display
    of GROSS Anti-Intellectual Dishonesty. -- Not even bothering to read my previous POST
    which gave a full and measured response, & the Article & Document detailing the PROOF
    of YOUR nonsense ------- SO AGAIN ! [​IMG]- I have to rub YOUR nose in IT :icon_shithappens: [​IMG]

    ..................................................................... "Strategic Attack"
    ................................................... US War Crimes Exposed IN
    .................................................. U.S. Air Force Doctrine Document 2-1

    .......................................................................... [​IMG]

    Read Full Document Here:
    ................................ https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/afdd2-1.2.pdf

    Read Full Article Here:
    ........................................... https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/SAandUSWC.html

    From The Article:
    "In light of the US drive toward war with Iraq and the urgency of preventing that disaster
    and somehow derailing this Bush/Cheney death train, I would like to call to your attention
    some recent findings by Thomas Nagy, Professor of Expert Systems at George Washington
    University, concerning U.S. Air Force Doctrine Document 2-1.2, "Strategic Attack." And
    I'm asking you to help in spreading the word about the horrific implications of this docu-
    ment concerning US war crimes (those already committed and about to be committed in
    the next war against Iraq if the policies in this document are followed now as they were
    in 1991)."


    The “Strategic Attack, United States Air Force,
    Air Force Doctrine Document 2-1.2, 20 - May 1998
    The document [was] posted on the U.S. Air Force Doctrines documents site,
    [November 2005: See
    local archived PDF copy --ratitor]
    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/afdd2-1.2.pdf


    Nagy called this document to my attention, and believes (as I do) that the content, if widely
    known, could and should be used to argue for revoking the blank check given to President
    Bush regarding the the use of force against Iraq. This is because the document appears to be
    documentary evidence from the USAF regarding what appears to be an open admission and
    approval of the war crime of destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival
    of civilian populations. This is specifically banned by Protocol Additional #1 of the Geneva
    Conventions, Article 54, par. 2 -- and is an illegal action under international law and a war
    crime.


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read Article 54, Of The Geneva Conventions Here:
    Protection of Objects Indispensable To the Survival of the Civilian Population
    It is prohibited to attack, destroy, remove or render useless objects indispensable to the
    survival of the civilian population, such as food-stuffs, agricultural areas for the production
    of food-stuffs, crops, livestock, drinking water installations and supplies and irrigation
    works, for the specific purpose of denying them for their sustenance value to the civilian
    population or to the adverse Party, whatever the motive, whether in order to starve out
    civilians, to cause them to move away, or for any other motive.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read Full Geneva Protocol Here:
    Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949,
    and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed
    Conflicts (Protocol I), 8 June 1977

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/appl...6739003e636b/f6c8b9fee14a77fdc125641e0052b079
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ALSO !
    Iraqi Sanctions and American Intentions: Blameless Carnage? Part 1
    https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom...american-intentions-blameless-carnage-part-1/

    Iraqi Sanctions and American Intentions: Blameless Carnage? Part 2
    https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom...american-intentions-blameless-carnage-part-2/
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    &

    "The Secret Behind the Sanctions:
    How The US Intentionally Destoryed Iraq's Water Supply."
    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/UScahIraq.html

    (Summary: Pentagon documents reveal how the United States, contrary to the Geneva Convention,
    intentionally destroyed Iraq's water supply. Nagy shows that there were extremely serious and
    still-deadly U.S. violations of international law and human rights in US Defense Department
    planning for the 1991 US war against Iraq and for the sanctions against Iraq.)
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Dayton3 -
    YOU best soon get Honest with YOURSELF and have done with Willful Ignorance.
    & FACE the uncomfortable FACTs about the People and Policies that YOU speak to

    Before the DAY comes when TO YOUR SHAME those uncomfortable FACTS
    .............................................................. are pushed through YOUR Heart

    ... [​IMG]

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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    China is a good deal LESS "communistic" than we are. They're a good deal more authoritarian though, (at least for now), and they justify that authoritarianism in the name of communism (and historical Chinese attitudes).

    All the rest of this is so, with the important caveat that the far FAR more important factor in China's coming to dominate so much of our imports is due to containerized shipping MUCH more than anything else.
     
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I'll make a deal with you. I'll read what you link to if you will post normally. Deal?
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    & why in HELL !
    would I want to be what YOU call NORMAL in this decidedly ABNORMAL World !
    ....................................................................................................................................................................... para Jidda Krishnamurti



    NO DEAL ! - YOU can take YOUR EXCUSE for YOUR Dishonesty - & Shove IT !
    I will however Inform YOU that the Formatting can be removed with the Push of the Button Tx
    ...................................................................................................................... found on the Top right corner of the Editor



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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    It might increase the willingness of some of us to consider your positions seriously.
     
  9. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    seriously [​IMG]
    One has to be Honest with Oneself in order to be serious.
    & given the record I have reason to doubt that Virtue resides in YOU
    I KNOW my Facts stand True - There is the Tx button in the Editor
    .................................................................................................................... that is the best I can do for you

    I do not POST for U - & I care NOT for any so called seriousness
    from
    Dishonest Brokers - You serve as a Foil off of which I play my Case

    .
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop dreaming! You somehow think all leaders are sociopaths without loyalty and integrity. Well guess again? When Washington was out to destroy Russia with it's false flags and sanctions, Putin had China's support and now that Washington's attacking China, Xi will have Russia's support. They are best friends.

    China is also heavily invested in Russia's East, something that would have been the EU's gain if they didn't bow to Washington with the sanctions. Also unless I'm mistaken, Russia is adding more pipes to their Power of Siberia gas going to China, and China has stopped buying oil from Saudi Arabia, and is now buying from Russia.

    [​IMG][​IMG]
    Dreamland, dreamland,
    my very own serene land,
    where I am free to only see

    whatever pleases me - Jeannette
     
  11. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    What makes you think that Washington was out to destroy Russia?

    That is going to be my accomplishment someday. Along with China and Iran for that matter.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes, I forgot about the exceptional nation.




    See no evil. Hear no evil. Speak no evil.
    [​IMG]
    We see no evil! No we don't!
    We hear no evil! No we don't!
    We speak no evil. No we don't!

    For look around, we are the best
    who wearest the eternal crown
    of fairness, love, humanity
    compassion and integrity.

    And you should know we'll never fall
    and that we're loved by one and all.
    it's why they bow before our name,
    our majesty, our trust and fame.

    For unlike those that came before,
    we are the only ones adored - Jeannette



     
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  13. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    You posting dumb things like that in no way refute my position or gives any weight to yours.
     
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    ~ Remember ... some people think it would be better if Japan or Germany got the A-Bomb before the USA. :ignore::invisable:
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of what I said once in 2004.

    "A liberal is someone who thinks that George W. Bush should not be in power...and that Saddam Hussein should be".
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ I think the point to all of this is : CHINA SHOULD NOT PUSH THEIR LUCK ! The USA is very likely to hold the CCP accountable - along with many other nations. ( India is very angry ) Sadly this may even include military action if necessary .
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ This was actually the result of piss-poor U.S. politics allowing China to screw everybody in the backside without repercussions. Then along comes Trump ...
    China is an evil empire with no regard for human life that must be collapsed before their cancer is metastasized around the free world. Anyone who defends the CCP should go live in China .
     
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    ........................................................................................................................................................................... [​IMG]
    & this guy has the Temerity to accuse other people of POSTING ..... dumb things
    ............................................................................................ Just after he has POSTED this ........... [​IMG]
    ................................................................................................................................................................................. [​IMG]
    Besides having a problem with being Honest to Himself, this exceptionally
    NORMAL Patriot seems unable to face the Well Documented FACT that his
    exceptional Nation has committed Atrocity & War Crime and smeared
    ........................................................................................... the Blood of Innocents all over him

    And now he wants to personally DESTROY, Russia China & Iran
    ................................................................................... ............................
    [​IMG]
    ................................................................................................................ Can we say coming Unhinged ?
    ......................................................................................................................... [​IMG]

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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    To the former: There are atrocities and war crimes in every war. That doesn't make it the official policy of the U.S. nor does it invalidate the rational for the conflict.

    To the latter: I plan to have lots of help.
     
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    In Response to this:
    Dayton gives us this:
    (1)
    Trying to Justify YOUR Nations Crimes by saying: - "every bodies do'in it"
    will in no way absolve YOU. It is a ludicrous and decidedly Immoral defense that
    only serves to BRAND you with the The Stain of Cain
    ................................................................................................. [​IMG]

    ....................................................................... (2) & What makes it OFFICIAL US
    ............................................................................. Policy is this OFFICIAL US
    .................................................................................................. Document
    ...................................................................................... [​IMG]
    ............................................................................... IT WILL NOT GO AWAY SIMPLY
    ............................................................................. .. BECAUSE YOU IGNORE IT

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...itorial-waters.571853/page-11#post-1071671122

    (3) & what F#<k was the Rational for destroying all of Iraq's Water Purification Facilities ?
    Done with the stated purpose as delineated within the Document, to cause DISEASE
    -
    to decimate the Vulnerable - Its final Rational - Was This [​IMG]
    .........................................................................................................................[​IMG] [​IMG]
    .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,............... "The Price We Think Is Worth It "
    ................................................................................................. [​IMG]
    ...............
    In its stated intent,
    the
    Policy of creating Disease among Vulnerable was eminently successful Irregardless of the
    FACT that it was an unmitigated
    Atrocity & War crime as defined by the Geneva Convention


    But as Dayton3 says:
    ........ ... - Atrocities are committed in every War - 'so whats the problem' [​IMG]

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    Are you talking about who should be in power in the US or Iraq?

    George Bush didn't make the decisions on his own, he had advisors and some were from the previous administration such as the head of the CIA George Tenet. There was also the Atlantic Council and other war mongering think tank lobbyists and neo cons who switch back and forth with whoever is in power.

    He was not the first to break international law and lie to go to war, Pres. Clinton was when he entered a civil war in Serbia under false pretenses and bombed Belgrade for 78 days killing thousands. He set a precedence and from then on our foreign policy became nothing more than lies and destruction: Lies to the American people, and destruction to the world.


     
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    Ask any nation in the world, and they will tell you there is only one evil empire, and it's us kiddo.

    US FOREIGN POLICY
    [​IMG]
    Fight and strife is my name
    and chaos is my game.


    I gear them all to kill and maim
    and then covertly flip the blame
    to you.


    So even though I am insane,
    and only think of my own gain,
    there is no shame.
    It's in your name
    and there's nothing you can do. - Jeannette


     
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    ~ I live in Los Angeles. My neighborhood is full of immigrants from Armenia , Egypt , Mexico and various parts of the middle east. None want to leave the USA. All had to wait years for the opportunity to be here. In discussions of world affairs and politics there is no mention of ''evil " America. My friendship with those from Thailand, China, Brazil etc. have never expressed disdain with America. They have a better and safer life here with more freedom and more hope.
    Some folks seem content bashing their own country without solutions. Perhaps they believe the U.S. would be better off as part of the PRC ! This is certainly possible with the "leadership" America has had the past 40 years. That is exactly the direction we have been going.
    With all of our problems and mistakes the USA is a much better place for many. It's time to put America first and restore our strengths and resolve - before it's too late.
    Of course some can just move to China ...
    { make sure you have enough money ! }
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can forget your accomplishment, because reality will be a lot different from what you or anyone else expects. The world is heading towards a major conflict. I said a major conflict and not world war, because the Third World War started in Syria on the Ides of March in 2011, and it has been in a continuous progression since then..

    From Syria it will go to the Aegean, and then the Bosporus, and then ….



    [​IMG]
    I'm dancing now so full of glee
    because of my artillery,
    that can send you all to Kingdom come
    and then some - Jeannette




     

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