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  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    You are the one that ignores what Christians believe. You show you are not a Christian
     
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    Since there is no one set of Christian beliefs, hence all the denominations, it is you who do not understand. There are thousands of differing belief sets.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations

    Here's the final test. Should we use civil law the mandate the practice of religious law?
     
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    The Bible is where beliefs come from and where Christians get their morals from. If they vote for abortion and gay marriage and men in women's bathrooms they vote against what the Bible says so they are not Christians
     
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    You dodged the question. Are Christians supposed to be using the law to force non-Christians to follow Christians beliefs?
     
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    I never said that. I said they do not vote for the immoral that support gays and abortion
     
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    I never said you did. Not sure where you got that idea from.

    So then they need to vote for those canidates who oppose gays and abortion?
     
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    Those that support high moral standards including standing angst abortion and gays special rights. It is immoral for men to be allowed to compete in woman sports
     
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    So then you expect these people so elected to vote for initiaitives that oppose gays and abortion and such?
     
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    Where did I say anything about politicians?
     
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    Right here:
    Who else does one vote for besides politicians?
    So if Christians do not vote for those that support gays and abortion, that implies that they vote for those who oppose it. As such that then logically moves to those voted for attempting to make that opposition into law. Otherwise why vote for such people? If this is not what you are saying then you need to make it clearer.
     
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    I am saying we do not vote for the immorality and sin of the democrats. We vote for those that follow the Bible. We do not vote for mothers killing their children or unholy marriage vows or men in women's bathrooms
     
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    I got that part, it's the follow up results that I am trying to pin down.

    So by we the people voting for those who follow the bible, you expect them, the elected, to vote for measures that support the bible teachings, correct?
     
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    Yes. They do not vote for killing babies or gay marriage or many other things
     
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    So then you expect them to vote on measures that will force those who are not Christians to follow Christians values by the power of law.
     
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    People vote for issues. Sorry if you disagree with Christians
     
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    Choice or not, I have never understood why it matters.I have friends of all persuasion, their attraction to what ever, is their choice and doesn’t impinge on my friendship. I don’t let anyone tell me who I can be attracted to and I don’t figure it’s my place to play that role for others.
    That said, I think I am going to have to adjust my choices... I am attracted to blond women, but I don’t seem to be able to build a lasting relation ship with one. I think I will give them up and start thinking towards redheads. But then, maybe I am just too old & ugly to find compatibility.
     
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    You are avoiding the question. Do you believe that Christians should use the power of government to force people to follow Christian values?
     
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    No such thing. Especially if your profile pic is you. Renn Faires and SCA. Great source.
     
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    Did you vote for trump?
     
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    My avatar is a pretty close resemblance... it’s is IL Duce from the Boondock Saints, selected because I had been told several times of my resemblance and my strong adherence to my Honor code.... oh, yes, I was raised in Ireland.
     
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    I believe that Christians should vote to show the values of Christianity. Do not vote for the immorality of the democrats
     
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    Yes
     
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    You avoided answering the question, again. Do you believe that Christians in positions of power to create laws, should use that power to create laws that forces non-Christians to follow Christian values?

    This is a simple YES or NO answer. Or, if you feel that the answer cannot be that simple, then you explain why it isn't.
     
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    So you voted for a man who has had multiple affairs (Adultery), has multiple times refused to pay workers for their service (Theft), has made statements that knowingly contradicts multiple individuals whose knowledge exceeds his on the given topic (False Witness), and has walked through changing rooms with underage girls still in various stages of undress (corresponds with the bold), and yet you want to tell us that Christians do not vote for such people? Yet you did vote for such a person, therefore by your own words, you are not a Christian.
     
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    I have answered you you just don't accept it. Is Trump doing that?
     

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