Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

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  1. dagosa

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    Nor is freedom the result of lies.
     
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    I like vote by mail but there needs to be guarentee that people not allowed to vote don't .
     
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    Sure, it’s called, a felony. You have already registered. Who is going to be able to steal your form and fill in the info that matches your registration form, all the while risking a mistake that would lead to felony charges. It’s ridiculous.
     
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    and if elected in 2016 we would have a global depression.
     
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    Which we do. 22 million job losses wipes-out the last decade of job gains. More to come, because unlike nations like so Korea which did testing and contact tracing immediately and had no economic shut down like us, Trump runs around chirping instead like a pigeon..”it will magically disappear”.
    AND DOES NOTHING.
     
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    Aren’t you the lucky one now.
     
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    From republican fantasy to republican FACT. They claim voter fraud but only find it in their own ranks. So, only republicans have anything to fear.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

    “The irony is pretty rich.”

    GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
     
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    So, what are you saying ? That election was fraudulent ? Cause ther is no record of it according to republican commissions set up by Republican administrations. Are we saying now that all these commissions set up by republicans were too incompetent to catch it ? Fail to see the argument they are trying to make.
     
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    Trump is whining about “ballot harvesting”
    which he is engaged in himself.

    “There at the White House, Trump and his wife marked ballots that an intermediary had received from elections officers in Florida. Those ballots were then hand-delivered back to West Palm Beach for tabulation — a process that is legal under Florida law, but which Trump himself has equated to fraud.”
     
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    Good. Then you're fully in favor of vote by mail so we can all vote like Trump.
     
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    Link or admit you're a liar.
     
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    Great!
    Then you're absolutely in favor of vote by mail for everyone so we can all vote like Trump.
     
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    Yeah, not so sure the phrase "modern life, everywhere on planet earth" is in the Constitution. Perhaps you could show it to me?
     
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    Let's describe the essentials here.

    The Registrar mails the ballot to the registered voter's address. If the voter wants the ballot sent to a different address a request along with accompanying documentation must be made in advance.
    The US mail delivers the ballot.
    The voter votes and the vote is witnessed by someone who can attest to the ID of the voter AND the voter's intent (that is that the voter filled out the ballot themselves).
    The ballot is placed in the envelope and returned to the Registrar where it is recorded against that voter's entry.
    When counting starts the ballot is counted just as any in person ballot.

    Now my fine Republicans for whom vote by mail is a right but that oppose it for the rest of us, just where does the fraud you insist WILL occur, occur?
     
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    This "pandemic" has nothing to do with what the Pol Pot left economists were predicting in 2016. To this day, we can disagree with what the US should have done/should be doing.
     
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    I think it was quite clear

    Bluesguy said:
    And in Florida 2000 the state of Florida's vote for their electors decided who would be President and it was decided by 236 votes.

    So how many fraudulent votes does it take to change the outcome of an election? I keep asking and you keep dodging.
     
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    No irony and hope the guy goes to jail and thanks for making my point and dispelling your own contention that voter fraud does not occur.
     
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    So IOW a landlord could find several ballots in the mailboxes from previous tenants he knows moved out of town could fill them out and make up a witness and return the ballots and they would be counted.
     
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    Hyperbolic nonsense all you got? Why won't you answer what I have asked you?
     
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    So the landlord of a large apartment complex...
    Well that would probably be a wealthy Republican.

    So we agree it is Republicans most likely to commit absentee voter fraud.
    I guess the solution then is to disband the Republican party. No loss since it stands for nothing anymore.
     
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    I wasn't talking about you I said "I".
     
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    Do you anything but inane nonsense and do NOT put words into my mouth.

    Try again

    So IOW a landlord could find several ballots in the mailboxes from previous tenants he knows moved out of town could fill them out and make up a witness and return the ballots and they would be counted.
     
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    Not true. So Korea and others started testing and contact tracing while Trump said it would disappear and sat in his asteroid. Consequently, they did not have a the shut down we did. We among the countries with dictators, are the epicenter of the pandemic. You may be used to Trump lying and making sht up, but the world doesn’t trust him. Nope, the economy is tied to Trump and the gop terrible choices, economically and medically.

    it was Trump that chose to ignore the pandemic panel initiated by previous presidents and given to Trump. This is stuff economies depend upon.....competence. Trump was a disaster waiting to happen. He still is. It will get worse.
     
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    If you included a reference and were factual, maybe someone would. Trump uses voting by mail. But, the rest of us can’t ?
     
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    Ha ha...the joke is on you !
    Thanks for admitting we don’t need voter IDs. Guess what, we found them out. Our system works. Do you understand that mandatory voter IDs we’re not in place in NC when this happened. Even the criminals that did this under the name of the Republican Party, were turned in and brought to justice by the local election authorities which included members of both parties....it worked !
     

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