Obamagate

Are you claiming the documents do not exist?

 

No, I am complaining you are a slacker.

 

We both know the documents exist. Most likely, you have already seen them. Why should I spend my time digging them up again?

 

Did you say you were not a birther?

 

I wish that I had a dime for every time someone laid that stupid cramp on me. You are not very original or cleaver

 

All public knowledge unless you only listen to the demedia.

 

Well here's another dime!

 

Exactly what I said. I would not hang my hat on the belief Obama is not a citizen. Just said there was a lot of suspicion due to his own actions.

 

Obama could toss puppies off a bridge and you would say the opposition is more radical than PETA.

 

"Obama did say in his book he is Kenyan" No he did not:
Did Obama's Literary Agent Say He Was Born in Kenya?

Really?You not a birther? If you believe the crap that you spewing ,YOU are a birther. That is what a BIRTHER does

 

Why would you ever assume such silliness? Hint...I like Obama about as much as I like Trump. Which is nil, nada, zilch.

 

Even to day there are claims his grandmother made....this is not 2008 or 2012. when Obama was being vetted. He was slow in producing his Birth Certificate. It just aroused a lot of suspicion. I don't care one way or the other. He was President for 8 years. I accepted that fact. I didn't resist. The damage was done. You can call me a birther if you want. Obama calls himself a Christian to get elected but he also calls himself a Muslim. He denounces Christianity often and call Islam the religion of peace.

I would prefer you to call me a Trumper like most leftists do if you want to pigeon hole me. We are reversing the effects your 1st half black President had on America.

 

Oh really.?? Context please

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...8C6FAD6E08615F387D1B8C6&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
There's one for you. Don't know if you'd watch it to the end.....but there's plenty more. Obama delighted in pointing out what he deems as the failures of Christianity as he glorified Islam.....even in light of ISIS.

 

Vacuous claims are not a merit worthy argument, need sourcing, evidence, etc. Use of loaded language, disparaging coined words, etc., diminishes your credibility. Recommend improving the caliber of your rebuttals.

 

Seems Trump and others have...what is it referred to...ODS...Obama Derangement Syndrome?

 

Obama was not 'glorifying isis', he was saying that Christians are not necessarily on higher ground because of historical crimes committed in the name of Christianity.

I will accede the point that the Crusades were 800 years ago, but he's technically correct. History is replete with crimes committed in the name of God. . However, no way can it be said that he was glorifying Isis, which is the point YOU ( and Fox ) were making.

 

I have heard him say Islam is the" Religion of Peace". Ever read how Islam inspired the Crusades?? Obama may not have glorified ISIS.....he just established an equivalence with Christianity that I find very un American and offensive.

 

What a bunch of horseshit! No I did not watch it to the end but I watched enough to see what they are doing here . It is nothing less propaganda where they just keep repeating the same crap. Talking about the shortcomings of Christianity is not the same as condemning or disparaging Christianity. Obama is speaking out about how Christianity has been weaponized, by those who seek to use it as justification to subjugate others, from slavery to Jim Crow, to the present day Evangelicals , who oppose health care, and aid to the poor while coddling the wealthy and the rejection of refugees .

He is speaking out against the bastardization of true Christian values -heal the sick, feed the hungry, love they neighbor and to shelter those in need, regardless of where they come from, I am not a religious Christian, but I am a philosophical Christian and in fact more of a Christian than these Trump lackeys who espouse values that are diametrically opposed to true Christian values.

As far as supporting radical Islam goes, Fox news talking heads accusing him of supporting radical Islam does not make it true. He has never spoken
in support of ISIS or the Taliban. He has said that Islam is a religion of peace. The fact that radical and extremist elements have hijacked it to do evil - just as some who call themselves Christians have done the same does not change that

I believe that both Christianity and Islam are religions of peace but both are ripe for being weaponized by those with hate in their hearts and a desire to oppress and disparage others. That is what I believe and that is what I believe Obama's message is. It's pretty clear that you have a problem with Obama so stop trying to pretend that you are somehow being objective

Lastly, let me remind you that this thread is supposed to be about the bizarre and observed reference to "Obamagate" that Trump was incoherently blathering about at an Easter Sunday presser and still, no one knows what the hell that is. Try to get back on topic instead of going off on these tangents about Islam and Christianity

 

I'll get back on topic after the record is set straight. Jesus never advocated the virtues you presented as something to be carried out by government on the backs of it's citizens at the point of a gun. It is a responsibility of the individual out of the charity of their heart. You Socialist love to twist that around. Even refugees must obey the laws of the land. So you are an open border supporter as well. That would figure.

 

Even the Brits have Dump's number https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...magate-and-why-is-trump-so-worked-up-about-it

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/treason-conviction-wouldnt-erase-presidential-actions/

 

Oh I see, You can't defend your inane equine excrement about Obama extoling Islam while rejecting Christianity. You can't defend or justify the hypocrisy of the phony Christians of the religious right , so now you pivot to the evils of socialism. Dude, its not about what it costs or who pays. It's about priorities and what we value as a society. It's about human decency which you don't seem to understand. Now, tell us about "Obamagate" and tell us how you are not a birther again

 

You can't defend the idea that liberals won't extol the virtue of charity as individuals, but must make sure everyone else does by enforcing it through the IRS at the point of a gun. Your hypocrisy is apparent. Absolutely no evidence that Obama embraces Christianity beyond his desire to be an electable official in what is a majority CHristian Nation.
Jesus Christ was never concerned about the virtues of the collective. It is all about the heart of the individual. That is way too big of a challenge for your ideology.

 

Thank you for admitting that you can't defend all of the crap that you put out there bout Obama.

 

They've been lying, about their spying, the whole time.

TARGETED: EXCLUSIVE: The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower.

REMEMBER THE "THIS ALL STARTED WITH CROSSFIRE HURRICANE BULLSHIT"?

President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers.

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“I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. ​

The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.”

IT'S TIME WE SAW IT

By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury. . . . This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search.

It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said.

People need to be jailed for this kind of thing.