A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    Smfh.
     
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    The Cops in that Video acted in bad faith.But then that is how most
    cops act as proven by years of watching Live Reality Cop TV.
    The public should know the drill.I don't like it any more than most
    people.But when stopped and detained by the Cops you are expected
    to do as they say.Exactly to the letter of what they Instruct.
    If a speeding violation there is a good chance a person stopped
    if following all instructions and being polite,will get off with a
    warning instead a speeding ticket.
    That mindset is the opposite of how Blacks are brought up.
    In fact,I think it is urban myth to not think blacks are taught to
    bolt when cops engage in a chase.
     
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    Give me the legal definition of probable cause.
     
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    They can ask all the questions they want. We shall see whether there was ample reason to detain until the police arrived.
     
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    That has been entered into the testimony whether or not it fits your desired scenario. Follow the facts and not your emotions or race-based desires.
     
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    I'm skeptical the judge gave any significant amount of consideration to potential affirmative defenses that may be raised at trial in deciding to issue the arrest warrants. You said "he has to examine whether or not it seems the McMichaels could use the CA and then SD statutes to excuse their conduct and decide it seemed that they didn't have enough." I'm not so sure. Is the DA required to present the judge with exculpatory evidence, such as anything that might aid the McMichaels in establishing a citizen's arrest justification for their actions? I know in most places a prosecutor does not have to present a grand jury with exculpatory evidence. If an information is anything like that procedure, why would we conclude that the judge had any reason or real opportunity to "examine whether or not it seems the McMichaels could use the CA and then SD statutes to excuse their conduct"? How could he possibly perform any such examination while hearing from only the prosecution?

    ETA: Would you think it was accurate to say that the judge in the George Zimmerman trial "has to examine whether or not it seems that Zimmerman could use the SD statute to excuse his conduct and decide it seemed that he didn't have enough" prior to the trial, at the point that Zimmerman was arrested and charged? That seems absurd.
     
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    Oh sure. People are as naive as you wish. He intent is clear for all too see. Normal people wouldn’t do such a thing.
     
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    You're right and he can tell them TGFY.
     
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    IANAL, but as I understand it, while the prosecution can't use the propensity inference as evidence against a defendant (for example, if the police had arrested Arbery for attempted burglary in February, the prosecution wouldn't be able to say "He was caught stealing a TV several years ago. He's a thief through and through."), but in this case, Arbery is not the one on trial. The McMichaels are, and there are some exceptions to that rule that allow them to present relevant character evidence in their defense. Wikipedia summarizes that exception like this:

    Is there any case-law in Georgia about presenting character evidence to justify a citizen's arrest? Has that been explicitly allowed / forbidden by the courts before?

    ETA: This seems to be the Georgia statute governing this matter:

    At the very least, it seems it's not exactly "100% not admissible at trial".
     
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    I have seen the shooting posted on this thread a few times. Do you also direct your ire at these individuals.
     
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    Funny how you anti-black folks love to tell others to follow the facts, when you run from them. Neither one of the McMichaels had seen Arbery up close and personal and the day of the shooting Greg McMicheal wasn't standing outside with Perez so how did he know who Arbery was other than he was a black man. I have yet to hear any of you speak of the whites that were entering the house illegally. Haven't heard you label them as burglars or claim they were stealing ish. Haven't heard you label any of them as suspicious, but I am the one with the race based problem. Smfh.
     
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    Well we finally agree on something.
     
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    I am not the one totally obsessed with race. I haven't seen any evidence that race was a factor at all in this scenario. Do you have any evidence at all that the McMichael's were aware of the other people illegally entering the house when they had the ability to do anything about it? If not then this is not a factor.
     
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    These cases demonstrate over and over that attempting to be a modern day vigilante is looking trouble and people who look for trouble find trouble. The moral of the story is don't look for trouble.
     
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    The video of the shooting was leaked to the press by Greg McMichael, so it seems to be a family thing for them.
     
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    Do you think that leak was also an attempt to "taunt" Wanda Cooper-Jones?
     
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    No, Greg decided to leak the video because he thought it made him look good. Of course it only seemed to have landed him in jail. Not the brightest bulb.
     
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    It never is let you tell it.

    So a black man is the ONLY one that just happened to see going into that house. Come on Glitch, you are smarter than that.
     
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    The difference is this piece of trash is in jail were he belongs and has been there from day 1 of this killing and I guarantee you nobody black will come on here and try to defend him.
     
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    Well I'll await your evidence that they were aware of others when they could do anything about it. Go ahead and present your evidence and I shall seriously consider it.
     
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    No Just Killers.Or as Benjamin Crumb is about to serve notice as :
    Executioners
     
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    Not near the media coverage, you personally know all the blacks on this site?
     

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