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Absolute nonsense.Pure pap.We have members of the New Black
Panthers saying this about White Mommies and their infants.
" Kill all white men,women,babies,blind,cripple.Then dig 'em Up
and 'Kill "Em Again. "
" If they are white kill 'em all ... Kill them now. "
Plus in addition the statements of Khalid Muhhamad { former spokesman
for Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam }
Advocating extreme violence against white people in general,
and specifically Gays,Lesbians,Babies and Women.

As Reported on August 16,2012 less then 3 months from
Obama's Re-election.

 

I know I should not have posted that even though it was news
as reported in late summer from The Blaze.But the context is
very relevant.Obama and Holder could have done something about that
kind of talk but they just Ignored.Like - Fast & Furious - when that became
big news.Holder also downplayed the New Panthers Voter Intimidation case.
Then again both Obama and Holder acted the same over BlackLivesMatter
started up after Ferguson and Michael Brown.
Holder did everything to challenge the Michael Brown Prosecution
in favor of Guilt for the Cop who shot to death Brown,even though
it was rather clear cut case that Michael Brown acted very criminal.
Punching out a cop and going for his pistol,while in his cop cruiser.
My point being is that those kind of situations are possible again
and Justice may not be served again.It took Hell and High water
for George Zimmerman to get Acquitted.Even then Holder and Al
Sharpton colluded to have the Civil Rights division of the Justice Dept.
formally Investigate Zimmerman.Plus very little was done to the New
Black Panthers when they put a Public Bounty out for Zimmerman
and $ 10,ooo reward for finding him.Plus a shout out to use 10,ooo
recruits to locate him.Talk about Never in America.

 

His place of residence was in the area. Violently attacking or defending himself against two men following him. (one man jumping out with shotgun)

 

Because I watched and read more than just that short and misleading clip.

 

Incorrect, they had RGTS, it's hardly illegal. The men were called by a neighbour who reported a man committing criminal trespass and resembled the description of a suspect for previous thefts in the area. Plus he was BLACK so obviously guilty of something, what with him being BLACK and all. The DA looked at the case and decided given the facts there was no case to answer, besides the person they shot was a BLACK, so who cares?
All police forces have people whinging at them, they're hardly any different. Plus he was BLACK!

 

They didn't pick a fight with anyone, they only wished to detain him for the police whom they'd already called. All they wanted to do was be good neighbours and protect their neighbourhood.

 

Well of course they are, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals?

 

McMichaels doesn't get to say "I knew of his prior criminal history, therefore it was reasonable to suspect a burglary here" to justify a citizen's arrest. That's the same as using the propensity inference. Seeing arbery running down the street does not allow him to say "arbery just committed a felony" because arbery had once committed a felony. He has to have independent reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion to suspect that arbery had just committed a felony and was fleeing the scene. Seeing what might be him in some grainy tapes from 2 months prior, and seeing him running past him, does not allow him to get the intermediate step of "he's committing/committed a felony just now".
Its like the joke you see on south park: Step 1: Something obvious, Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit. He has to be able to fill in the question marks with how he knew arbery had JUST done something felonious. Without that he's just a brigand.

Character evidence are things like: He was known to be quick to anger, He was known to be an habitual liar, etc.
Its not: One time he committed a crime and therefore its reasonable to assume he did in this case and that my client had reasonable and probable grounds to suspect same.

The former are admissible, the latter get you sanctions.

 

Exactly

 

You should be sorry, you have a lot to be ashamed off. They pursued a man who fitted the description of a man suspected of previous thefts in the area.

 

What murderers? And please explain your incredible assertion?

 

and their attempted detention of arbery was illegal, as they did not witness first hand a crime, nor was a felony committed in order to give them reasonable suspicion.

 

The first four times you use the word "just" in that post suggest that you believe a citizens arrest must immediately follow the suspected commission of a crime. Is there an case-law that supports that? I asked this question a few pages ago and didn't really get a satisfactory answer. If a Georgia citizen sees someone commit a crime, and that person flees and evades them for a period of time, but then the citizen once again encounters the suspected criminal, can they not then detain them / perform a citizens arrest? If not, why not (with bonus points for cites to statutes or cases that confirm this)?

 

that description was "black male". You can't stop any random black male and attempt to detain them. You have to witness first hand a crime, or have reasonable suspicion of a felony. McMichaels did not witness any crime, and no felony was committed for them to have suspicion of.

 

they have to witness the crime first hand in order to detain a suspect. A suspect that flees and is later identified by the same individual who witnessed the crime, can then detain them. McMichaels did not witness a crime, hence the attempted detention of arbery was illegal.

 

The citizens arrest statute never uses the word "witness". You are clearly mistaken here.

 

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And confronting someone with a shotgun on the street is picking a fight.

 

When approach a person with a gun you are picking a fight

 

How do you know she's telling the truth? You have no first hand knowledge but you have to take the witnesses word until proven otherwise. What evidence have you that they were racist in any way apart from your prejudice? Besides he was a BLACK and you know what they're like?

BLACKS get more time because they are more involved in VIOLENT crime, out of all proportion to their numbers. Hardly surprising given that they're BLACK!

The US is one of the most liberal and freedom loving countries on earth, it's hard to believe anyone could denigrate it so

 

this means witness

 

What a vile thug! That officer was a saint.

 

What clip did you watch? Watching this it's no wonder Arbery got himself shot.

 

Keep reading. What does "or within his immediate knowledge" mean?

 

Yes there was, he committed criminal trespass. Who was murdered?

 

Like Arbery.