Trump's claim he takes hydroxy chloroquine prompts warnings from health experts

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does the opposition always use phrases like "educating yourself"? Is it because they wish to imply you are uneducated therefore they ARE educated, and have ALL the answers?
    Tell you what, Curious.....I have listened to the conflicting Doctors. I'm not a Doctor, I am an individual and I listen. Then I make an "individual choice" based on my own logic and the common sense God has gifted me with. Perhaps I don't measure up to your politically correct standard, but that is your cross to bear, not mine. In America, the individual is paramount. We don't always cow tow to the "collective".
    I do honor the wishes of individuals that are fearful. Either I do, or I don't enter.
    Just left a hospital where I complied. Saw a whole lot of cheating going on though.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Makes you hot, doesn't it!
     
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    Yes, by all means, go against the grain. All you are telling people is that you don't care how far and wide your germs spread. I've not been to a business where a face mask isn't required. Keep in mind, it's the owner's right to deny entry if you refuse.

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    They may be over compensating.

    Cavuto takes the vapors. I remain amazed at the complete abandonment of reason on the subject of hydroxychloroquine. It either works or it doesn’t. There’s decent evidence that it works with zinc, and that it doesn’t work very well without zinc. It could still turn out not to be very helpful, though if I were Trump I’d be taking it too after exposure. But pretending that it’s somehow highly dangerous when it’s been routinely taken by millions for 2 generations is outright crazy. I swear if Trump endorsed Vitamin D, half the country — and 90% of the press — would be wearing burkas over 100X sunblock.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just got back from eating at Pinewood Tavern in Pine Arizona. Not a mask in the place. So your worldly experiences are limited......of course you would enact martial law and make American comply with your wishes. We have had 17 cases in our County. Last heard 7 were recovered.
    Quite an interesting pee analogy. I never ever caught the flu by not wearing a facemask.
     
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    Reading this forum, it unfortunately looks like many DO believe what he says and that is a BIG problem.
     
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    You know what even more simple? Don't listen to Trump.......he's insane.
     
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    Why? I also said it doesn't matter.
     
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    My decision to do so would not be based in what he said but what the scientist and doctors on the frontline say such as

    Expert: Hydroxycholorquine Helping Flatten Curve in New York

    New York state health officials say as many as four-thousand coronavirus patients across the state have been given the “unproven” anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to help fight off the coronavirus.

    President Donald Trump has been touting the potential life-saving benefit of the newly FDA approved drug against COVID-19.

    Infectious diseases expert Dr. Aileen Marty told Jen and Bill this morning that the flattening of the curve in New York can be directly related to this drug.

    Last month, Governor Andrew Cuomo said healthcare workers would be allowed to use the drug in combination with antibiotics to treat patients with severe cases of the virus.

    It is also possible that Governor Cuomo’s younger brother, CNN Prime Time host Chris Cuomo, who has the coronavirus, has also been prescribed anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to help fight his high fever.
    https://www.850wftl.com/expert-hydroxycholorquine-helping-flatten-curve-in-new-york/
     
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    You have just admitted that the truth doesn’t matter to you.
     
  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Out of 25.5 million, that's like 5000% better than we're doing

    But you aren't being run by an absolute total *******, who seems bent on killing all of us while he natters on with insane babbling and his clown gallery has parties where they chug fish tank cleaner and Lysol as a ritual to a bronze statue

    So there, how about that then, huh? Shouldn't we elect him to a second term, and shouldn't we be eternally grateful to the Political Party that foisted him on us?
     
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    This forum is badly infected
     
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    As soon as Trump's doctor apologizes for "doctoring" that weight.

    Trump's ASS weighs more than 243
     
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    Progressives at deductive reasoning. ^^^
     
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    More progressives at thought. ^^^
     
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    No, I didn't. That's just your interpretation, which like your posts.....is wrong.
     
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    If you base your thoughts on articles like you linked, there is little hope for you. Did you actually read it? It's BS
     
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    Trump is pushing 300 or has the bone structure of a bird.
     
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    No interpretation needed. To the Orange Man Bad mob the truth is irrelevant.
     
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    We live in a very strange world right now. One in which we have access to more information than ever before and, and possibly it is because of that, one where we are subject to more disinformation than ever before.

    With this I do think it looks like the reaction to hydroxychloroquine appears to be based on Politics with this being due to Trump hailing it as a possible cure and people determined that everything he says is bull and possibly even trying to prove it - for instance there have not as yet been any proper trials on it but any supposed ones are done on people who are at late stage. If hydroxychloroquine has something to offer it is as an antiviral and this must be given early - that is the nature of how they work. Give them late and no chance.

    There was the recent study of giving hydroxychloroquine with and without Zinc which showed great potential - but still would require proper trials. It does seem to work when used with Zinc. But people do not want to hear about it and whether they want to hear about it or not, whether they have open minds or not in the main appears to depend on whether they are a Trump supporter or not. This is extremely dangerous and would appear to be illustrating that people who believe that it is going to be possible in this age to program our minds by knowing what we support and then giving us information to go with that. It ends up treating the human being itself as a machine.

    One of the things I keep hearing now is how dangerous hydroxychloroquine is and how it causes terminal problems with the heart. I know that on its warnings prior to covid-19 there were none about the heart so taken in the dose which was prescribed before it would appear it did not damage the heart and its problems with Covid 19 patients would appear to be either because they are at such a late stage of their illness that their heart is already compromised or the dose or other medications one is taking ....but still we hear how dangerous it is. As it happens my neighbour, who is an Australian, used to work with people who needed to take it and was responsible for making sure this was done. She never knew of it causing anyone problems but now we hear every minute that it is a very dangerous drug.

    It was hence a big surprise to me last night when listening to Horizon to hear it said, just as Trump says, that hydroxychloroquine is 'safe' (19 mins)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000jbhj/horizon-2020-coronavirus-special-part-2

    We seem to be becoming like girls in the 60's, easily programable. Then it was to cry and scream if they liked the pop star, now it appears to be whether you like Trump or not. Both ways it destroys the ability to be real and to look at things objectively but instead makes us into controllable minions.

    This is not about Trump. It is about being open to what can help and although in the Horizon episode they say they do not do tests because a Politicians suggests they be done, it does appear that people's minds are shut for that very reason. Very concerning that we are so easily manipulated.
     
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    Strange how all the "open minds" are seen as being in Trump's favor

    It reminds me of what I think Carl Sagan said. "You should be careful to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out"
     
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    Those who do their homework understand the benefits, safety, and limitations of hydroxychloroquine application to treatment and prophylaxis of coronnvirus infections.
     
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    Lack of rebuttal noted.
     
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    For the left EVERYTHING is about Trump and I have no reason to believe that had Trump not talked about HC or had said he refused to take it they would be attacking him for that. It doesn't matter WHAT he says just that he said something and they will attack it.
     
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    And you can link me to this weigh in that occurred?
     

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