So, You Don't Believe In Noah's Ark? Guess Again!

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bow to your superior wisdom.

    Well if that's what you say, then it must be right.

    By whose standards? Yours? Oh well, then I guess it must be so.




    ATHEIST GODS
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    Take that you fools of misery.
    For we the gods of lofty see,

    are watching you from our great height
    and snicker at the motley sight
    of lesser beings, not as bright as us.


    And if our hubris should offend
    Then knowest it will be your end,
    for gods like us can never fall.
    Oops! -
    Jeannette






     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Some people have "faith" in a creator - usually referred to as a God. Sometimes the details are confusing and/or unexplainable. I do not think it is our place to convince others ( proselytize ) of our own personal beliefs. It is also important to not discourage another's belief if it gives them comfort.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one should proselytize or impose their beliefs on others, but people should be free to express their beliefs and experiences without being attacked. What are they afraid of?
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Just rude I suppose. One thing that I have noticed with many atheists is an outright anger towards religious beliefs. Don't really understand it ...
     
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    You saw this site with your own eyes or did you see a video? If it was just a video I am wondering if you believe the Avengers happened in real life?
     
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    To some degree my attitude took hold at an early age. I was punched in the face at the age of 16 for refusing to go to church Prior to being punched in the face, I had been forced to attend a so called confirmation class for teenage youth. The minister could not really address any of the questions I asked him during this "training" and resorted to asking other youth in the class to subject me to ridicule. This same minister was later determined to be having affairs with multiple women. The real thing that I find irritating over time is the smug attitude with which Christians spout their fables and fairly tales without out providing any evidence whatsoever for their claims. That and their brainwashing of children.
     
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    Shark bones are made of cartilage and it is extremely rare for them to become fossils.

    This is why when skulls are discovered there is never any nose or ears because that is all made of cartilage.

    So a sure sign that you are being duped is when someone is telling you that they found shark bones.
     
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    Your OP failed to withstand critical scrutiny.

    That is not an attack, it is just scrutiny.
     
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    You can prove that you have true faith in the Jesus character simply by doing what he said you can do. Walk outside and command the nearest tree to uproot itself and to jump into the nearest body of water. If it does as you command without any outside help you will be the first person in history to have ever had faith in Jesus. So, prove your faith. If you can't them you have no faith or else the Jesus character was a liar.
     
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    There are no Atheist Gods. Though I like your verse.
     
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    Absolutely. Thousands of people give their lives to the service of others at whatever cost to themselves. They get little recognition but deserve a 'canonisation' far more than your saints. If there were a heaven they would be the first in line for 'medals' - not your 'Saints'.

    Sainthood is a church tradition - as is much of Church ritual.
     
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    lol
     
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    the odd thing is though, the bible can't even agree on Jesus's last words

    Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

    Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

    John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
     
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    The bible BEGINS by offering different versions of some of the primary concepts.

    There are two versions "creation" and two versions of the 10 commandments so it really is a Chinese Menu as far as allowing people to just pick and choose especially given that some verses directly contradict others.

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    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com...interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/
     
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    Yes I was absolutely fuming when someone flew a plane into the World Trade Centre because of their religious beliefs, truth is I am still angry now, just call me Mr Intolerant and rude!
     
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    And if we applied the current covidiocy to 9/11 then none of the people aboard the planes would be victims of terrorism because they all died in plane crashes instead. :eek:
     
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    I'd have been more angry if it had been Noahs Ark that brought it down. How would we explain that? :alcoholic:
     
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    e60dca033e82f2e568fb9791caf59225.jpg 740.jpg Imagine if Joe Biden used a cane ... ! ⬆
     
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    But what about the thousands of relics that didn't turn out to be bogus?

    Then you believe it was all staged? What was the gain, after all it would have cost a pretty penny. Does this mean the people who confirmed it in the video were being paid as well? I know Wyatt was deceived about Golgotha since it is in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher - and that historical accuracy was proven 2 years ago when archeologists were repairing the Edicule covering Christ's tomb. But does it mean the Arc was a deception as well?

    A pity they didn't have the internet or even the printing press, then all the versions would be exactly the same. But regardless, there is still a BC and AD - thank God, because it brought a set of moral laws that are now universal. Then again who knows for how long, what with the neo paganism and the approaching WWIII.

    You're fuming over a few thousand people because they were killed by some Muslim 'takfiris' (elitists), but you're not fuming over the 40 million Christians who were killed by 'atheists' in the Soviet Union? I bet your not even fuming over the genocide of Christians in the ME by the same terrorists our Western 'secular humanists' support? The killings average 300 a day.

    As for the USSR, it was the same secular humanism that you and others want to impose on the world today - and yet there is no such thing. The very term secular humanism is a oxymoron since one can't be secular and at the same time a humanist. They are a contradiction in terms, since humanism started with Abraham and reached its fulfilment with the advent of Christ.

    If some humanist qualities still exist in our neo pagan world, it's only because of the prayers of some, and the love they have in their hearts which binds and keeps this world intact. But that's gradually diminishing, as more people pull away from their Creator Who nurtured them, and brought them into existence.

    What we can expect now is more political infighting, more climatic turmoil, more geological upheavals - and WWIII.
     
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    Surely you're familiar with the term "separating wheat from chaff"?
     
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    Before I tell you about Saint Elizabeth, I want you to know that I don't believe in proselytizing since I'm not an elitist. I believe there are innate differences in cultures and they must be taken into account. So please don't take this wrong.

    The Grand Duchess Sergius Alexandrovich Romonov, was Queen Victoria's granddaughter and the sister of Tsarina Alexandra. When her husband the Grand Duke Sergius was killed by a terrorist, she collected her husbands body parts and afterwards visited his killer in jail. She tried to get him to repent because she knew that's what her husband would have wanted, and tried to free him but to no avail. This doesn't mean that all the nobility in Russia was devout. Quite the contrary, most were in the occult since it was fashionable in Europe pre WWI. Had it not been so, the Bolsheviks would never have been able to take over.

    At the time of her husband's death, Saint Elizabeth was not only the richest woman in the world, but also known for her looks. Yet she gave it up to start a monastic order and open a hospital. The worse cases she treated herself, and sometimes her clothes would smell so much of gangrene that they had to be burned.

    When the revolution started, she and some other Romonovs were thrown down a mine shaft. When they were heard singing hymns, the Bolsheviks threw grenades' down to finish them off. Later on someone told a priest where her body was, and he carried it to China together with the nun who refused to leave her, and it was retrieved by her sister - who was also Prince Philip's grandmother.

    From there the casket was carried to Jerusalem and buried in the Russian Church built by her husband Sergius. I read that throughout the journey, the sweet scent of Myrrh kept emanating from the casket, which in the Orthodox Church is a sign of sanctity. Today, Saint Elizabeth's statue is at Westminster Abbey together with other Saints.
     
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    Today, in the UK, there are funerals for Doctors and Nurses who willing went into hospital wards filled with Covid patients, knowing that they were risjking their lives in the service of others. There are many who are still doing so. Do you not think they deserve 'sainthoods' and be recognised by the church as Saints. Down through the ages ordinary men and women have also shown such devotion but their names are not known, nor would the people want them to be. They simply did what was necessary at risk to themselves. 'Saint' Elizabeth did no more or less than them If there is a heaven 'Saint' Elizabeth will get no preference over them, despite what the Church teaches. You are simply wrapped in your cosy religious beliefs.
     
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    What I've noticed with many believers is an outright anger towards atheists (lots of Let's Hate Atheists threads in this forum)...……..I believe it may be jealousy..:)
     
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    Umm, "Googleing it" is absolutely not research..
     

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