Venezuelan military to escort Iranian oil tankers

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/venezuelan-military-to-escort-iranian-oil-tankers-628751

"Iran warns US against disrupting fuel shipments to Venezuela
Reports suggest four US Navy warships are in the Caribbean for a 'possible confrontation with Iran's tankers" https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...fuel-shipments-venezuela-200517194044512.html

Looks like trouble is brewing in the Carribean. Iran can not seem to keep out of Trumps crosshair's.

 

Hopefully the Venezuelan navy will not sink one of there ships again.

 

Hopefully - Iran will not sink one of our ships ...

 

Good for them.

 

Would be quite a shocker - to the average citizen. "Our battleship was sunk by who" ?!

Technology has spread - and the cost of projecting power has increased.

 

Do you honestly think that’s a possibility?
I mean I’m not in favor of sanctions on Venezuela, to be honest I could care less about Venezuela. But do you honestly think the Iranian convoy escorts would last 30 seconds against the US Navy?

 

I will answer your question the same way an American military officer answered the question as to why, despite the fact that Iran can sink US aircraft carriers, should the US nonetheless employ them in their missions near Iran. The same principle applies and I hope you will understand what I mean:

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/k...-still-deterred-by-american-aircraft-carriers
Op-Ed: Yes, Iran is still deterred by American aircraft carriers

The same ;principle applies here, but in reverse.

 

It is unlikely -but possible. Iran's anti ship missile capabilities have advanced - were Iran to have somehow equipped their tankers with these missiles - a surprise attack might be able to take out one of our ships.

If we were talking about Russia/China/India - our ships can not defend themselves against a surprise attack.

 

The US empire doesn't even pretend to recognize international norms anymore. Its roguery is committed right out in the open.

 

To which roguery are you referring?

 

The most blatant ones, in reverse chronological order, would be:

-- the assassination of General Soleimani, while on an official visit to Iraq;
-- the US campaign of "maximum pressure" against Iran, including imposition and threat of imposition of secondary sanctions on countries which did not similarly ignore their commitments under the JCPOA, after tearing up that deal -- a deal which had been negotiated between Iran and all permanent members of the UN security council and Germany (P5+1) and which was endorsed by a "binding" UN Security Council resolution
-- the US invasion of Iraq, in violation of the charter of the UN

 

Those weren't roguery. Those were punishments for bad behavior.

 

Absolutely. I heard some of your people were apprehended during the US recent attempt at murdering Maduro. The Venezuelan official asked one of them if he was aware that what he was doing was illegal. Oh yes, he said. It still may be difficult for some American's to acknowledge but the US is seen by the rest of the world as the rogue state it is believing it does not have to follow laws - that would be apart from the UK who is usually quietly involved..

 

From what I hear Venezuela has a pretty decent military - no doubt why the US has not already gone in and taken over. I hear if the US wants to intervene, wants a war it may get more than it bargained for and if it tries it on Iran and Venezuela at the same time, well. Not saying there will not be thousands, hundreds of thousands or even millions of people killed, but been hearing it would not be a walk over which no doubt is why the US has been falling over itself breaking the law and building up illusions which eventually no one but itself believes.

 

Sorry that your Trump the warhawk dreams aren't coming true.

America is more than happy to sit back and let Maduro rot in the garbage pit he has created.

Nothing in Venezuela is worth a single drop of American blood.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ps-approach-venezuela-sign-us-threat-70853937
1st Iranian ship reaches Venezuela with no sign of US threat
The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran has reached Venezuelan waters

 

Not sure which ones - ET had in mind but Obama racked up quite a few.

Libya - Assassinating Gadaffi - quite the violation of international norms of itself - but in this case - the guy we killed made a deal with us .. security for giving up his WMD. Gadaffi kept his end of the bargain.

Yemen - after many years of some very questionable drone strikes - killing many innocent - and many "mistakes" Imagine coming home ..opps - sorry about your wife and kids - The cops saw some bad guy go into your apartment block ... so they blew up a section of the building with hellfire missiles - and it turned out that the place they hit was a mistaken address... and the fellow they thought was the bad guy - was not that guy...

Then .. we team up with El Saud and Al Qaeda - to wage war on the place - an act for which we have been charged with complicity in war crimes - and rightly so .. massive humanitarian crisis, war crimes, crimes against humanity .. nasty stuff.

Moving on to #1 on the list of roguery - Leading a large coalition of nations to arm, support, and supply a radical Islamist Proxy army - led by Al Qaeda and offspring - in Syria - a sovereign nation. Huge violation of international law - even if it wasn't Al Qaeda.

The fact that it was Al Qaeda .. and worse than Al Qaeda - only increases the roguery - an action which led to the death of 500,000, refugee and humanitarian Crisis, Genocide, war crimes, rape, forced marriage, crimes against humanity - that went on for years - and we continued to support them - despite Most of the cities in Syria being turned into Strict Sharia Nightmares - dark age style.

 

Venezuelan Navy goes out to sea to meet the incoming Iranian tankers

 

A tanker equipped with Missiles - which would sink our ships. Sad Isn't it.

 

You have little faith in our technology.

 

"Faith" does not change reality - and the reality is that missile technology has advanced at a rate far quicker than our ability to defend.

It's hard to hit the slow moving home made rockets the Palestinians fire at Israel. Targets with a predictable Trajectory. The Iron Dome success rate is 85%

To hit a fast moving ballistic missile with a predictable trajectory - is very difficult. We have no reliable defense at present - especially given the Russian ballistics have counter measures.

To hit a super sonic cruise missile - is even more difficult -as you have no predictable trajectory - and a very limited reaction time. We had no defense to the Sunburn Anti Ship missile the Russian's released in 1995 - these missiles are now faster - stealthy - smart - and take evasive maneuvers. Hypersonic are another level up beyond that.

Even if we had a reliable defense against such missiles - we don't have enough ammo to fend of a concerted attack involving many missile salvo's.

India joined in with Russia shortly after the Sunburn - and China shortly after that - 3 nations working on this technology.

Now Iran is not the Russia/China/India Consortia - but they have also been focusing on missile technology for many years - and what they have demonstrated recently is impressive - certainly too much for the Patriot System to handle.

I doubt they have loaded up a tanker with a bunch of anti ship missiles - but - who knows.

 

Cute. But here is a video showing the Venezuelan navy escorting the first Iranian tanker to reach Venezuela.

 

Our Submarines would have them all sunk before they knew what hit 'em.

 

Vietnam era technology.

 

Who is being sunk ? and how do the subs know that an oil tanker is equipped with anti ship missiles ?

It is called the element of surprise mate --- get it , got it .. good.