Open carry doesn't scare or intimidate me. Stop projecting. People who are afraid of our rights have no place trying to limit them, instead they should exercise their right to hide under a rock...
The number of states where open carry is legal by default suggests otherwise. That is the "bear" portion of "keep and bear" in the second amendment.
The united states federal constitution, is not the only constitution in the united states that must be addressed, however.
~ That is a matter of opinion. Some say it is indeed a Constitutional right , but the individual states can dictate otherwise. I would guess at the time the Constitution was written taking a gun along with you was not that unusual .
So... law enforcement should be able to open carry then either... right? I mean, if the only reason to openly carry is to intimidate..... Police don't need to intimidate folks.. do they?
Before everyone became as feminized as you, the presence of a firearm intimidated no one. Just a few years ago the people in Switzerland were required to wear a sidearm or a sword to the polls when voting.
I am not demanding anything. You're the one who said open carry was only for intimidation. Did you mean it, or not? And frankly, the military doesn't open carry unless they are deployed in a war zone. So explain it again. Do police practice open carry for the intimidation? and if you're against it, does it mean you'd keep the police from doing it as well?
Yes you actually do,, that's what it means to bear arms.. you have no right to tell people not to, Tyrant
You would like my state. That is how it works here. Our handgun licenses require than the gun be concealed to reduce concern by the public. However, there is no license required for long guns. The second amendment simply protects the right to own and use firearms. It doesn't limit the use.
On Friday I had a meeting with Captain of a local agency about installing a new backup repeater at the training center he runs, once we got the details of that worked out the discussion moved shop talk and the recent shooting that left another black hoodrat dead. He was quick to show me a video he had of the incident that has not been released to the public but he may be hired to become involved with as it's going to be a part of the suit against the agency involved, he was able to point out to me 4 major mistakes the officers made, the primary one was the escalation of force after the suspect was in custody, he stated that was because of a lack of training, one or more of the officers involved should have given an order to back off, which would break the increasing use of force and while that might not have prevented the death, it would have greatly lowered the departments liability. His lament was, training gets the back burner every time, until something bad happens, the reason being neither the public, nor the upper brass can see any tangible return on investment in training, whereas programs like community outreach, law enforcement in schools, and interactive community outreach are very visible and more importantly receive popular press for the department. Well in department something bad happened which is how he was transferred into running the training program, there was an officer involved shooting death, the family lawyer-ed up and the department was required to hand over all training documents related to the officer, because of the haphazard way his predecessor was running the training division he opened a file cabinet and handed me a thin folder with all of the officers training records, inside other that his firearm qualification forms the rest was a check sheet where factors of his training where checked off, example use of force, check, but no details of the actual lesson plan or a scorecard, It turned out the previous training director kept all of the details in his head and never documented anything, in fact out of four file cabinets only a drawer and a half contain all the training records for the entire force. I commented when I did firearms training I produced more documentation on a student in the course than he had in an entire officers training package. So now the department is facing a multi-million wrongful death suit with little of anything to document the officers training as a defense, or as I was told they are going to get "taken to the cleaners." His solution, the department is facing at least two years of training for the entire force and that is only possible if they can hire away from other departments two qualified and state certified law enforcement instructors, he estimates retraining the entire force will cost around 4 million for actual training, plus the overtime pay for other officers to backfill the officers off the road in training. He told me the city manager went through the roof when they had a meeting with her and explained the need for additional training funding, his answer was either fund the training or fund paying out more lawsuits, which could get to the point it will bankrupt the city. That was two weeks ago and still no decision from the powers to be which he see's as a major problem should the state of the feds get involved and force the required and documented training down the city's throat.
One could argue being a convicted felon for life is part of sentencing but I disagree with a lifetime status depending on your felony. At a certain point you're status as a felon should be expunged.
People tend to assume there is more to it. I graduated basic peace officers training on 2013 and the weapons part was exactly the same as the CHL proficiency test with an exception of firing 5 rounds from a shotgun. Also isn't it odd that in times when police brutality is on everybody's mind that people just assume police are extremely well trained?
I have a large number of friends that are In LE. A frequent complaint is they are expected to perform perfectly in every situation by those in political office who say one thing to the public but who do not provide the funding for adequate training. They are expected to operate at the level of elite special forces while having the skills of an FBI negotiator, a community sociologist, an EMT, and a psychologist with little to no training in those areas. Then, if those skills are not demonstrated on demand and the MSM couch quarter backs launch their biased critique, the politicians offer up their sacrificial lamb. Funny thing is the community is liable, often sued, and pays 10 or more times what it would cost to pay for training officers to the level of expected sainthood.
