"Trump demands governors allow churches to open"

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, you dont trust the CDC and you dont trust the NIH and you dont trust any medical institution in the USA or Europe or anywhere, so your OPINION is noted....

    ...and disregarded as irrelevent.
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure everyone that disagrees with you is disregarded is irrelevant that's how religion works.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!!!

    your whole argument depends on that, doesn't it? ;)

    btw, nice strawman.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF does me being a Jew have anything to do with this????

    hmm.....
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What argument? I just doubted your claim.

    You tried to discredit me instead of showing evidence for your claim.

    So you have done nothing but attack people who don't agree with you.
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You can't support your claims so you take your ball and go home.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i already supported my claim by citing the CDC, which is a well-respected medical institution
     
  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Meh, not very good support. You also cited a ridiculous study that estimated way more people would have died than the CDC suggested.

    It's not good support. You then asked where I got my information probably so you could attack the source.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you have a study or report from another medical institution that counters what I posted?
     
  11. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I doubt your claim it is your burden to present evidence for it.

    It is not my burden to present evidence for why I doubt.

    Sorry you are going to have to do this the hard way or just walk away.
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i already did.

    i dont have the time or funds to do such a research project.

    we trust the CDC and AMA and NIH to handle such things, plus universities.
     
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    You presented an appeal to authority. It's not evidence.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh look, you've memorized the Wikipedia list of Logical Fallacies.


    that doesn't make up for your lack of an argument.

    nor does denying any/all evidence from respected medical institutions.

    "standing up to the man", is not an argument. ;)
     
  15. Polydectes

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    I'm not arguing. I doubt your claim. I don't have to give evidence for my doubt. You have to give evidence for your claim.

    You can shuck and jive all you want but I'm going to keep pointing that out.
     
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    Then of course many of those universities are like Columbia. disraceful liberal institution according to Trump. I guess we'll have to wait for the research from Jerry Falwell University.
     
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    I don't think you understand how the conservative mind works. In their minds, it's okay for a president to tell states what to do if conservatives agree with the president's decree. They don't really care about the Tenth Amendment. That's just a pretext for them to challenge federal mandates they disagree with.

    If there were a "conservative" dictionary, you would not find the word "hypocrisy" in there. The concept does not exist to them.
     
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    No but you have to have a decent reason to reject my evidence.

    rejecting all reports and commentary from any medical institution is not an intelligent rebuttal, especially when discussing a medical issue
     
  19. Polydectes

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    what evidence? A ridiculous study and the claim of the CDC? That's not evidence.
    I didn't reject any. I'm just skeptical of the claims.

    Why don't you try arguing in good faith.
     
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    You reject any studies from the CDC, the NIH, the AMA, or any other medical institution.

    Sounds like you will just disregard any evidence that you disagree with

    However you could give me the name of a medical institution that you would trust
     
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    says which medical expert?

    you haven't provided ANY information. Nothing. Nada. Zippo.

    You've only disregarded studies from well-respected institutions cause you think its cool to reject info from "the Man".
     
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    you're struggling really hard to avoid providing ANY actual good reason to deny everything you're denying.

    how about you start with some specifics as to why the CDC study is wrong.
     
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  23. Ronstar

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    actually, if you're gonna deflect a study from a very well-respected institution, you should have a good reason to do so.

    so far you're just babbling about "demographics".

    got anything more substantial than that?
     
  24. Polydectes

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    you're struggling really hard to try and convince me that I'm denying something I'm not.

    Skepticism is not denial.

    You don't seem to understand. It is not my burden to prove your claims wrong.
     
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    care to elaborate?
     

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