‘A Year’s Worth of Suicide Attempts in the Last Four Weeks’: California Doctor Calls for End to Lock

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Chinese virus is not once in a century event. We get viral attacks like this on a fairly regular basis.
    The difference now.....
    Donald J. Trump is president and it is an election year.
    Proof, just go back and read your anti-Trump posts pre-Chinese virus. Same words, different topic.
     
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    No.

    What else confuses you?
     
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    None of my words pre-Covid-19 about Trump apply to Covid-19 itself.

    The fact that Trump is still ****ing up and being a ****ing moron and a ****ing whiny little bitch, but in regards to Covid-19 is just further proof that he shouldn't be president during the time of a once in a century type pandemic event.
     
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    I expect that every democrat who continues to attempt to enforce the destruction of the nation harbor this kind of sentiment. The idea that their queen couldn't be coronated seems to have utterly destroyed them. So, now it's burn down the house because for so many democrats, they don't derive their incomes directly from the actual economy, but from a government who pays them for their allegiance.
     
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    We're saved from his evil by his stupidity, the same as Bush and Gingrich. The problem is that we have a party that let him get to be their Presidential candidate. It's not just Trump, the REPUBLICANS have to go, (as a viable form of politics, as people they have their uses, not the least of which is entertainment. )
     
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    Yeah. I remember in 2000 the Presidents insisting that if we didn't outsource our country to the Chinese Communist Party, in the name of PNTR, in 20 years we would regret it. Then came SARS, Chinese Drywall, Manufacturing Outsourcing, Intellectual Property Theft, Medical Device and Pharmaceutical Outsourcing, Asian Carp, and now, COVID-19. How'd that work out? Just like the Clintons advertised?
     
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    Lol.

    All you have is talking points.

    Is "tax cuts for the rich" like in the liberal instruction manual?

    The rich didn't get a "tax cut" at all. I didn't get $1200, I make too much. Did you get a check? Aren't you also on disability and not working even before the crisis?

    So... I work, and contribute, and feel the effects of the virus and don't get a dollar. You don't work, don't feel the economic hardship and get at least 1200.

    And then you scream "only for the rich". Your reality is beyond warped.
     
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    A Year’s Worth of Suicide Attempts in the Last Four Weeks’: California Doctor Calls for End to Lockdown

    Please tell the doctor that he doesn't understand how badly the democrats want to beat Trump in November.
     
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    I am politically diametrically opposed to your views, but I find that you, in general, argue your point cogently, even if often a little snarkily. But the 'B-B-But' form of arguing on PF just makes people using it sound stupid, and pretty much immediately stop any dialogue dead in it's tracks. Just my advice. Take it as you will.
    As to the article, I find it weird that it comes with no numbers whatsoever. If there really is a year's worth of suicide attempts in a 4 week period, the hospitals should be completely overloaded (California had 4300 suicides (which implies that the attempted numbers would be far far greater) in 2016 and the bay area represents about 1/6th of California's population).
    Problem with the WH is that they are the house of complete chaos: they create the guidelines for reopening, and then encourage the public to fight those guidelines.
    The US is finally starting to flaten the curve and it is obvious that some parts should be reopening very soon, and some part should be open with guidelines to follow (are there really some businesses refusing to serve custpmers who chose to wear masks in their stores? Really?) Had the WH had a coehrent message, and used it's bully pulpit to instill safe behaviour we wouldn't have the chaos that we have right now. France, where I live, has flatened the **** out of the curve, and we are opening up slowly, but much more surely than the US. And most importantly not being duchebags about it. This tragedy has brought unity here, in the US, the president has just pitted one part of the country against the other, and all that is left is enmity and choas. Sad
     
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    Don’t like playing Monday morning QB but trade with China has been a disaster overall. “Stuff” got cheaper but the cascading impact on IP theft, human rights violations and ignoring international laws has been disastrous. We destroyed our manufacturing base which has been unrecoverable. It also propped up a Communist empire which isn’t good for anyone. How much have the Clintons benefited from that atrocity?
     
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    So, remove China from PNTR, stand by Taiwan and stand with Hong Kong by officially recognizing both as free independent states, and end diplomatic and economic relations with Red China. I'll back that, but Trump doesn't have the courage to because he doesn't have the intellect to know morally it's the right thing to do. Trump is not America's savior, he's her knife in the back. We need a president with practical idealism, not pragmatic expediency.
     
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    Is that what CNN tells you? The truth is exactly opposite, which is why there are only a handful of people in the US who watch that hate mongering propaganda outlet ,,, and they are members of the Progressive Cult that inspired European Fascism back in the day. There has been no chaos as evidenced by the fact that NIH and CDC were front and center in dealing with COVID-19 in the US starting before Trump empaneled the task force on January 29.
     
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    Your only response is to push ridiculous claims about CNN? LOL!

    VERY ENTERTAINING!!! You had me cracking up!
     
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    So we can chalk this up to just another crackpot claim from the rw with no evidence to support it.
     
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    Nah, it's more like killing the tumor to save the patient.
     
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    Totally false, no one is ignoring the seniors, however they are a part of larger society and nothing special, as such they must remember that and compensate for it.
     
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    Actually the response to the COVID-19 virus is more like killing the patient so the tumor will die.
     
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    What it comes down to is OMB, if Trump came up with a cure for cancer tomorrow, the OMB's would criticize him for not coming up with it yesterday, as such by not coming up with it yesterday he is responsible for all cancer deaths in that time period.

    When it comes to OMB there is nothing Trump cannot be blamed for.
     
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    If Obama had handled this virus in the same manner as Trump, you would have demanded that he be impeached and removed from office for his mishandling of it.

    Don't even try to deny it.
     
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    Which is a major problem, more and more the U.S. is breaking into two class's, the entitlement class and the working class, and the entitlement class looks down upon the working class because they are not working hard enough and therefore not earning enough to pay through tax's, what the entitlement class wants to be given to live the lifestyle they wish to have.

    The entitlement class doesn't see the problem is because they don't want to work, they blame it on those who do.
     
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    The problem with that theory is Obama would have ignored the problem, preferring to shoot some hoops.
     
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    Obama left the trump administration a pandemic playbook which the Trump administration failed to acknowledge even existed for like 8 weeks.
     
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    By the way you have no idea of how I would react to such, I am a very unpredictable person, so your statement I shouldn't deny anything is based on an assumption, and a very incorrect assumption.

    Going forward, do not try to project anything upon me that you cannot prove factually.
     
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    A very limited and useless playbook, that the Trump administration replaced with a updated and much more comprehensive playbook.

    Guess you missed that presser or just ignored it as it doesn't support your anti-Trump narrative.
     
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